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# What politics is: deciding things together, sentence 17

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Some people say the bigger group should always win a vote; others say a smaller group should sometimes get its turn, or it will always lose.

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**Who acts:** people, bigger group, others, smaller group, group · **What happens:** say, win, get, lose · **To what, where:** vote, turn · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «What politics is: deciding things together» of the politics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (people, bigger group, others, smaller group), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:politics:001-what-politics-is-deciding-things-together.lesson:17
# text = Some people say the bigger group should always win a vote; others say a smaller group should sometimes get its turn, or it will always lose.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = politics
# lesson = 001-what-politics-is-deciding-things-together.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R1-cc-next ×1
1	Some	some	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	2	det	_	_
2	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	nsubj	_	_
3	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
5	bigger	big	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	6	amod	_	_
6	group	group	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	nsubj	_	_
7	should	should	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	9	aux	_	_
8	always	always	ADV	RB	PronType=Tot	9	advmod	_	_
9	win	win	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	3	ccomp	_	_
10	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
11	vote	vote	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	obj	_	_
12	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	14	punct	_	_
13	others	other	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	14	nsubj	_	_
14	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	parataxis	_	_
15	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	17	det	_	_
16	smaller	small	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	17	amod	_	_
17	group	group	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	20	nsubj	_	_
18	should	should	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	20	aux	_	_
19	sometimes	sometimes	ADV	RB	PronType=Ind	20	advmod	_	_
20	get	get	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	14	ccomp	_	_
21	its	its	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	22	nmod:poss	_	_
22	turn	turn	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	20	obj	_	_
23	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	28	punct	_	_
24	or	or	CCONJ	CC	_	28	cc	_	Agree=R1-cc-next|Haiku=20:cc
25	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	28	nsubj	_	_
26	will	will	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	28	aux	_	_
27	always	always	ADV	RB	PronType=Tot	28	advmod	_	_
28	lose	lose	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	20	conj	_	_
29	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: narrator
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | some people |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **win** | should | the bigger group | a vote |  |  |  | always *property* | vn succeed-74-2 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent vote=Eventuality |
| 3 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | others |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 4 | **get** | should | a smaller group | group's turn |  |  |  | sometimes *property* | vn comprehend-87.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer turn=Stimulus |
| 5 | **lose** | future | group |  |  |  |  | always *property* | vn succeed-74-3-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:politics:001-what-politics-is-deciding-things-together.lesson:17`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R1-cc-next ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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