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title: Disagreeing about ideas is fine; calling an idea "stupid" makes the… — Arguing politely and never calling names · tree and pragmatics
description: Disagreeing about ideas is fine; calling an idea "stupid" makes the other person feel attacked, while "I don't agree, because..." keeps the talk going. Who acts: Disagreeing, calling, other person, Strong arguers. A sentence of the lesson «Arguing politely and never calling names» of the politics co
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# Arguing politely and never calling names, sentence 5

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Disagreeing about ideas is fine; calling an idea "stupid" makes the other person feel attacked, while "I don't agree, because..." keeps the talk going.

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**Who acts:** Disagreeing, calling, other person, Strong arguers, talk · **What happens:** disagree, be, call, make, feel, attack · **To what, where:** idea, other person, talk · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «Arguing politely and never calling names» of the politics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (Disagreeing, calling, other person, Strong arguers), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:politics:039-arguing-politely-and-never-calling-names.lesson:5
# text = Disagreeing about ideas is fine; calling an idea "stupid" makes the other person feel attacked, while "I don't agree, because..." keeps the talk going.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = politics
# lesson = 039-arguing-politely-and-never-calling-names.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×2, R7-rel-agree ×1
1	Disagreeing	disagree	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	5	csubj	_	_
2	about	about	ADP	IN	_	3	case	_	_
3	ideas	idea	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	1	obl	_	_
4	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
5	fine	fine	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
6	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
7	calling	call	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	13	csubj	_	_
8	an	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	9	det	_	_
9	idea	idea	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	obj	_	_
10	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	11	punct	_	_
11	stupid	stupid	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	9	appos	_	_
12	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	11	punct	_	_
13	makes	make	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	parataxis	_	_
14	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	16	det	_	_
15	other	other	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	16	amod	_	_
16	person	person	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	13	obj	_	_
17	feel	feel	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	13	xcomp	_	_
18	attacked	attack	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	17	xcomp	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=17:acl
19	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	25	punct	_	_
20	while	while	SCONJ	IN	_	25	mark	_	_
21	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	25	punct	_	_
22	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	25	nsubj	_	_
23	do	do	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	25	aux	_	_
24	n't	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	25	advmod	_	_
25	agree	agree	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	5	parataxis	_	_
26	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	30	punct	_	_
27	because	because	SCONJ	IN	_	30	mark	_	_
28	...	...	PUNCT	,	_	27	punct	_	_
29	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	27	punct	_	_
30	keeps	keep	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	13	advcl	_	Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=25:conj
31	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	32	det	_	_
32	talk	talk	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	30	obj	_	_
33	going	go	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	30	xcomp	_	Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=32:acl
34	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	5	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: character
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **disagree** | gerund |  |  |  |  |  | about ideas | vn correspond-36.1 «NP V PP.theme S»: agent=Agent about idea=Topic |
| 2 | **is** | present | Disagreeing |  |  |  |  | fine *property* | tree rules |
| 3 | **call** | gerund |  | a idea |  |  |  |  | vn initiate\_communication-37.4.2-1 «NP V NP.recipient»: agent=Agent idea=Recipient |
| 4 | **make** | present | calling | the other person |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 5 | **feel** | infinitive | the other person *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn conjecture-29.5-2 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Theme |
| 6 | **attack** | participle | the other person *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn attack-60.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 7 | **not** **agree** *speech: agree* *in a quote* | present · do-support | Strong arguers *= arguer* |  |  |  |  |  | vn correspond-36.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 8 | **keep** | present | calling *not said here* | the talk |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 9 | **go** | gerund | the talk *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn disappearance-48.2-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:politics:039-arguing-politely-and-never-calling-names.lesson:5`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×2, R7-rel-agree ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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