--- title: Some grown-ups find it too painful ("too raw") to talk about someone… — Living with loss: keeping memories, and loss tha… · tree and pragmatics description: Some grown-ups find it too painful ("too raw") to talk about someone who died; their silence does not mean the person was bad. Who acts: grown ups, silence, person, ups. 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The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (grown ups, silence, person, ups), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree. ## The tree {#tree} ```conllu # sent_id = school:reflection:003-living-with-loss-keeping-memories-and-loss-that-isn-t-death.lesson:12 # text = Some grown-ups find it too painful ("too raw") to talk about someone who died; their silence does not mean the person was bad. # source = school lesson (ours) # course = reflection # lesson = 003-living-with-loss-keeping-memories-and-loss-that-isn-t-death.lesson # annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1 1 Some some DET DT PronType=Ind 4 det _ _ 2 grown grow VERB VBN Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass 4 amod _ Agree=R8-pos-agree|Haiku=4:amod|HaikuPos=ADJ:JJ:Degree=Pos 3 - - PUNCT HYPH _ 2 punct _ _ 4 ups up NOUN NNS Number=Plur 5 nsubj _ _ 5 find find VERB VBP Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin 0 root _ _ 6 it it PRON PRP Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs 5 obj _ _ 7 too too ADV RB _ 8 advmod _ Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=5:advmod 8 painful painful ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 5 xcomp _ _ 9 ( ( PUNCT -LRB- _ 12 punct _ _ 10 " " PUNCT `` _ 12 punct _ _ 11 too too ADV RB _ 12 advmod _ _ 12 raw raw ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 8 conj _ _ 13 " " PUNCT '' _ 12 punct _ _ 14 ) ) PUNCT -RRB- _ 12 punct _ _ 15 to to PART TO _ 16 mark _ _ 16 talk talk VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 8 advcl _ _ 17 about about ADP IN _ 18 case _ _ 18 someone someone PRON NN Number=Sing|PronType=Ind 16 obl _ _ 19 who who PRON WP PronType=Rel 20 nsubj _ _ 20 died die VERB VBD Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin 18 acl:relcl _ _ 21 ; ; PUNCT : _ 26 punct _ _ 22 their their PRON PRP$ Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs 23 nmod:poss _ _ 23 silence silence NOUN NN Number=Sing 26 nsubj _ _ 24 does do AUX VBZ Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin 26 aux _ _ 25 not not PART RB Polarity=Neg 26 advmod _ _ 26 mean mean VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 5 parataxis _ _ 27 the the DET DT Definite=Def|PronType=Art 28 det _ _ 28 person person NOUN NN Number=Sing 30 nsubj _ _ 29 was be AUX VBD Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin 30 cop _ _ 30 bad bad ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 26 ccomp _ _ 31 . . PUNCT . _ 5 punct _ _ ``` ## Pragmatics {#pragmatics} No stored speech act for this sentence. | # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 1 | **grow** | participle | | | | | | | vn appear-48.1.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme | | 2 | **find** | present | some grown ups | loss | | | | painful *property* | vn discover-84 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent it=Topic | | 3 | **talk** | to-infinitive | some grown ups *not said here* | | | | | about someone | vn talk-37.5 «NP V PP.topic»: agent=Agent about someone=Topic | | 4 | **die** | past | | | | | | | vn calibratable\_cos-45.6.1 «NP.attribute V»: agent=Attribute | | 5 | **not** **mean** | present · do-support | ups's silence | | | | | | vn intend-61.2-1 «NP V S»: agent=Agent | | 6 | **is** | past | the person | | | | | bad *property* | tree rules | | 7 | **silence** | | ups *= up* | | | | | | nom silence «state transitive»: poss=agent | One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree. **Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:reflection:003-living-with-loss-keeping-memories-and-loss-that-isn-t-death.lesson:12`. **The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence. 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