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description: Some philosophers say life may have no given reason and we make our own meaning; humanists say meaning comes from how we live and love. Who acts: philosophers, life, we, humanists. A sentence of the lesson «Is it fair? Why bad things happen to good people» of the religion ethics course of Mova's pri
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# Is it fair? Why bad things happen to good people, sentence 14

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Some philosophers say life may have no given reason and we make our own meaning; humanists say meaning comes from how we live and love.

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**Who acts:** philosophers, life, we, humanists, meaning, our · **What happens:** say, have, give, make, come, live · **To what, where:** given reason, own meaning · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «Is it fair? Why bad things happen to good people» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (philosophers, life, we, humanists), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:religion-ethics:075-is-it-fair-why-bad-things-happen-to-good-people.lesson:14
# text = Some philosophers say life may have no given reason and we make our own meaning; humanists say meaning comes from how we live and love.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = religion-ethics
# lesson = 075-is-it-fair-why-bad-things-happen-to-good-people.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R8-pos-agree ×1
1	Some	some	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	2	det	_	_
2	philosophers	philosopher	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	nsubj	_	_
3	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	life	life	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	nsubj	_	_
5	may	may	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	6	aux	_	_
6	have	have	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	3	ccomp	_	_
7	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	9	det	_	_
8	given	give	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	9	amod	_	_
9	reason	reason	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	obj	_	_
10	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	12	cc	_	_
11	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	12	nsubj	_	_
12	make	make	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	conj	_	_
13	our	our	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	15	nmod:poss	_	_
14	own	own	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	15	amod	_	_
15	meaning	meaning	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	12	obj	_	_
16	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	18	punct	_	_
17	humanists	humanist	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	18	nsubj	_	_
18	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	3	parataxis	_	_
19	meaning	mean	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	20	nsubj	_	_
20	comes	come	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	18	ccomp	_	_
21	from	from	SCONJ	IN	_	24	mark	_	_
22	how	how	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	24	advmod	_	_
23	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	24	nsubj	_	_
24	live	live	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	20	ccomp	_	_
25	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	26	cc	_	_
26	love	love	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	24	conj	_	Agree=R8-pos-agree|Haiku=24:conj|HaikuPos=NOUN:NN:Number=Sing
27	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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No stored speech act for this sentence.

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | some philosophers |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **have** | may | life | no given reason |  |  |  |  | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent reason=Patient |
| 3 | **give** | participle |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn break\_down-45.8 «NP V»: agent=Patient |
| 4 | **make** | present | we | our own meaning |  |  |  |  | vn build-26.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent meaning=Product |
| 5 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | humanists |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 6 | **come** | present | meaning |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 7 | **live** | present | we |  |  |  |  |  | vn exist-47.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 8 | **love** | present | we *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn admire-31.2-1 «NP V S\_INF»: agent=Experiencer |
| 9 | **mean** |  | our |  |  |  |  |  | nom meaning «communication transitive»: poss=agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R8-pos-agree ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

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