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description: Some philosophers say that if everyone understands "lovely dinner" as "thank you", it may not be a lie at all; "Let your conversation be always full of grace" (Colossians 4:6). Who acts: philosophers, everyone, dinner, conversation. A sentence of the lesson «White lies: the ugly jumper and the bad d
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# White lies: the ugly jumper and the bad drawing, sentence 17

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Some philosophers say that if everyone understands "lovely dinner" as "thank you", it may not be a lie at all; "Let your conversation be always full of grace" (Colossians 4:6).

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**Who acts:** philosophers, everyone, dinner, conversation, your · **What happens:** say, understand, thank, not be, let, be · **To what, where:** lovely dinner, you, lie, all, conversation · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «White lies: the ugly jumper and the bad drawing» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (philosophers, everyone, dinner, conversation), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:religion-ethics:083-white-lies-the-ugly-jumper-and-the-bad-drawing.lesson:17
# text = Some philosophers say that if everyone understands "lovely dinner" as "thank you", it may not be a lie at all; "Let your conversation be always full of grace" (Colossians 4:6).
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = religion-ethics
# lesson = 083-white-lies-the-ugly-jumper-and-the-bad-drawing.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1
1	Some	some	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	2	det	_	_
2	philosophers	philosopher	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	nsubj	_	_
3	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	23	mark	_	_
5	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	7	mark	_	_
6	everyone	everyone	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Tot	7	nsubj	_	_
7	understands	understand	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	23	advcl	_	_
8	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	10	punct	_	_
9	lovely	lovely	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	10	amod	_	_
10	dinner	dinner	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	7	obj	_	_
11	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	10	punct	_	_
12	as	as	SCONJ	IN	_	14	mark	_	_
13	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	14	punct	_	Agree=R8-pos-agree|Haiku=14:punct|HaikuPos=PUNCT:'':_
14	thank	thank	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	parataxis	_	_
15	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Person=2|PronType=Prs	14	obj	_	_
16	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	14	punct	_	_
17	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
18	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	23	nsubj	_	_
19	may	may	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	23	aux	_	_
20	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	23	advmod	_	_
21	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	23	cop	_	_
22	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	23	det	_	_
23	lie	lie	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	ccomp	_	_
24	at	at	ADP	IN	_	25	case	_	_
25	all	all	DET	DT	PronType=Tot	23	nmod	_	_
26	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	33	punct	_	_
27	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	28	punct	_	_
28	Let	let	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	3	parataxis	_	_
29	your	your	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	30	nmod:poss	_	_
30	conversation	conversation	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	28	obj	_	_
31	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	33	cop	_	_
32	always	always	ADV	RB	PronType=Tot	33	advmod	_	_
33	full	full	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	28	xcomp	_	_
34	of	of	ADP	IN	_	35	case	_	_
35	grace	grace	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	33	obl	_	_
36	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	33	punct	_	_
37	(	(	PUNCT	-LRB-	_	38	punct	_	_
38	Colossians	colossian	PROPN	NNPS	Number=Plur	28	parataxis	_	Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=3:obj
39	4:6	4:6	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	38	flat	_	_
40	)	)	PUNCT	-RRB-	_	38	punct	_	_
41	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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No stored speech act for this sentence.

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | some philosophers |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **understand** *a condition, not said to happen* | present | everyone | lovely dinner |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **thank** *speech: thank* *in a quote* | present |  |  | you |  |  |  | vn judgment-33.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent you=Theme |
| 4 | **not** **is a** | may | dinner | a lie |  | all |  |  | tree rules |
| 5 | **let** *in a quote* | infinitive |  | your conversation |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 6 | **is** *in a quote* | infinitive | your conversation *not said here* |  |  |  |  | of grace; always, full *property* | tree rules |
| 7 | **converse** *in a quote* |  | your |  |  |  |  |  | nom conversation «communication intransitive»: poss=agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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