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title: Kant said you must not lie even to a murderer at the door; most phil… — Olympiad dilemmas: friends, truth and telling · tree and pragmatics
description: Kant said you must not lie even to a murderer at the door; most philosophers disagree and say protecting a person comes first; many suggest refusing to answer and getting help. Who acts: Kant, you, most philosophers, protecting. A sentence of the lesson «Olympiad dilemmas: friends, truth and telling
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# Olympiad dilemmas: friends, truth and telling, sentence 6

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Kant said you must not lie even to a murderer at the door; most philosophers disagree and say protecting a person comes first; many suggest refusing to answer and getting help.

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**Who acts:** Kant, you, most philosophers, protecting, many · **What happens:** say, not lie, disagree, protect, come, suggest · **To what, where:** person, help · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «Olympiad dilemmas: friends, truth and telling» of the religion ethics course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (Kant, you, most philosophers, protecting), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:religion-ethics:099-olympiad-dilemmas-friends-truth-and-telling.lesson:6
# text = Kant said you must not lie even to a murderer at the door; most philosophers disagree and say protecting a person comes first; many suggest refusing to answer and getting help.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = religion-ethics
# lesson = 099-olympiad-dilemmas-friends-truth-and-telling.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1, R7-rel-agree ×1
1	Kant	Kant	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	_
2	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	6	nsubj	_	_
4	must	must	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	6	aux	_	_
5	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	6	advmod	_	_
6	lie	lie	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	ccomp	_	_
7	even	even	ADV	RB	_	10	advmod	_	_
8	to	to	ADP	IN	_	10	case	_	_
9	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	10	det	_	_
10	murderer	murderer	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	obl	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=6:obj
11	at	at	ADP	IN	_	13	case	_	_
12	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	13	det	_	_
13	door	door	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	nmod	_	_
14	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	17	punct	_	_
15	most	most	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	16	amod	_	_
16	philosophers	philosopher	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	17	nsubj	_	_
17	disagree	disagree	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	conj	_	_
18	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	19	cc	_	_
19	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	17	conj	_	Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=6:conj|HaikuPos=VERB:VB:VerbForm=Inf
20	protecting	protect	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	23	csubj	_	_
21	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	22	det	_	_
22	person	person	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	20	obj	_	_
23	comes	come	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	19	ccomp	_	_
24	first	first	ADV	RB	NumForm=Word|NumType=Ord	23	advmod	_	_
25	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	27	punct	_	_
26	many	many	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	27	nsubj	_	_
27	suggest	suggest	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	conj	_	_
28	refusing	refuse	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	27	xcomp	_	_
29	to	to	PART	TO	_	30	mark	_	_
30	answer	answer	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	28	xcomp	_	_
31	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	32	cc	_	_
32	getting	get	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	28	conj	_	_
33	help	help	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	32	obj	_	_
34	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: narrate
- voice: narrator
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | Kant |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **not** **lie** | must | you |  |  |  |  | to a murderer at the door | vn assuming\_position-50 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **disagree** | present | most philosophers |  |  |  |  |  | vn correspond-36.1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 4 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | most philosophers *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 5 | **protect** | gerund |  |  | a person |  |  |  | vn defend-72.3 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent person=Beneficiary |
| 6 | **come** | present | protecting |  |  |  |  | first *property* | vn escape-51.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 7 | **suggest** *speech: suggest* | present | many |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 8 | **refuse** | gerund | many *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn reject-77.2 «NP V S\_ING»: agent=Agent clause=Theme |
| 9 | **not** **answer** *speech: assert* | to-infinitive | many *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn reciprocate-112-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 10 | **get** | gerund | many *not said here* | help |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer help=Stimulus |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:religion-ethics:099-olympiad-dilemmas-friends-truth-and-telling.lesson:6`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1, R7-rel-agree ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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