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title: Some time words are fuzzy or old: a Scottish gran's "the back of nin… — Quarter past, quarter to, and how people really… · tree and pragmatics
description: Some time words are fuzzy or old: a Scottish gran's "the back of nine" means just after nine, and an old book's "five and twenty past four" is 4:25, because old English could say the small number first. Who acts: time words, back, old English. A sentence of the lesson «Quarter past, quarter to, and 
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# Quarter past, quarter to, and how people really say the time, sentence 8

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Some time words are fuzzy or old: a Scottish gran's "the back of nine" means just after nine, and an old book's "five and twenty past four" is 4:25, because old English could say the small number first.

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**Who acts:** time words, back, old English · **What happens:** be, mean, say · **To what, where:** 4:25, small number · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «Quarter past, quarter to, and how people really say the time» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (time words, back, old English), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:world:102-quarter-past-quarter-to-saying-the-time.lesson:8
# text = Some time words are fuzzy or old: a Scottish gran's "the back of nine" means just after nine, and an old book's "five and twenty past four" is 4:25, because old English could say the small number first.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = world
# lesson = 102-quarter-past-quarter-to-saying-the-time.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×2, R7-rel-agree ×2, R8-pos-agree ×2
1	Some	some	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	3	det	_	_
2	time	time	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	compound	_	_
3	words	word	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	5	nsubj	_	_
4	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
5	fuzzy	fuzzy	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
6	or	or	CCONJ	CC	_	7	cc	_	_
7	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	5	conj	_	_
8	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	19	punct	_	_
9	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
10	Scottish	Scottish	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	11	amod	_	_
11	gran	gran	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	15	nmod:poss	_	Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=19:nsubj
12	's	's	PART	POS	_	11	case	_	_
13	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	15	punct	_	_
14	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	15	det	_	_
15	back	back	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	19	nsubj	_	Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=11:appos
16	of	of	ADP	IN	_	17	case	_	_
17	nine	nine	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	15	nmod	_	Agree=R8-pos-agree|Haiku=15:nmod|HaikuPos=NOUN:NN:Number=Sing
18	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	15	punct	_	_
19	means	mean	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	parataxis	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=5:conj
20	just	just	ADV	RB	_	22	advmod	_	_
21	after	after	ADP	IN	_	22	case	_	_
22	nine	nine	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	19	obl	_	_
23	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	27	punct	_	_
24	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	27	cc	_	_
25	an	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	27	det	_	_
26	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	27	amod	_	_
27	book	book	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	conj	_	_
28	's	's	PART	POS	_	27	case	_	_
29	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	30	punct	_	_
30	five	five	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	27	appos	_	_
31	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	32	cc	_	_
32	twenty	twenty	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	30	conj	_	_
33	past	past	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	34	amod	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=34:case|HaikuPos=ADP:IN:_
34	four	four	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	30	nmod	_	_
35	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	37	punct	_	Agree=R8-pos-agree|Haiku=37:punct|HaikuPos=PUNCT:``:_
36	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	37	cop	_	_
37	4:25	4:25	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	5	conj	_	_
38	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	43	punct	_	_
39	because	because	SCONJ	IN	_	43	mark	_	_
40	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	41	amod	_	_
41	English	English	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	43	nsubj	_	_
42	could	could	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	43	aux	_	_
43	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	37	advcl	_	_
44	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	46	det	_	_
45	small	small	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	46	amod	_	_
46	number	number	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	43	obj	_	_
47	first	first	ADV	RB	NumForm=Word|NumType=Ord	43	advmod	_	_
48	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	5	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: narrator
- polarity: none
- teacher: changed voice=narrator

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | some time words |  |  |  |  | fuzzy *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **be** |  | some time words *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **mean** | present | a Scottish gran's back of nine |  |  |  | after nine |  | vn intend-61.2-1 «NP V S»: agent=Agent |
| 4 | **is a** | present | some time words *not said here* | 4:25 |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 5 | **say** *speech: assert* | could | old English | the small number |  |  |  | first *property* | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent number=Topic |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:world:102-quarter-past-quarter-to-saying-the-time.lesson:8`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×2, R7-rel-agree ×2, R8-pos-agree ×2. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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