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title: Some old dates are traditions rather than measurements, like Kyiv's… — BC and AD, dinosaurs and pyramids, and timelines · tree and pragmatics
description: Some old dates are traditions rather than measurements, like Kyiv's founding in AD 482, and big claims, like aliens building Stonehenge, need evidence: archaeologists have found the tools, homes and bones of the people who really built it. Who acts: old dates, measurements, big claims, archaeologist
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# BC and AD, dinosaurs and pyramids, and timelines, sentence 11

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Some old dates are traditions rather than measurements, like Kyiv's founding in AD 482, and big claims, like aliens building Stonehenge, need evidence: archaeologists have found the tools, homes and bones of the people who really built it.

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**Who acts:** old dates, measurements, big claims, archaeologists, people · **What happens:** be, found, build, need, find · **To what, where:** traditions, AD, Stonehenge, evidence, tools

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This is a sentence of the lesson «BC and AD, dinosaurs and pyramids, and timelines» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (old dates, measurements, big claims, archaeologists), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:world:125-bc-ad-dinosaurs-pyramids-timelines.lesson:11
# text = Some old dates are traditions rather than measurements, like Kyiv's founding in AD 482, and big claims, like aliens building Stonehenge, need evidence: archaeologists have found the tools, homes and bones of the people who really built it.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = world
# lesson = 125-bc-ad-dinosaurs-pyramids-timelines.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R2-punct-next ×1, R5-strong ×1, R7-rel-agree ×3
1	Some	some	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	3	det	_	_
2	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	amod	_	_
3	dates	date	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	5	nsubj	_	_
4	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	cop	_	_
5	traditions	tradition	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	0	root	_	_
6	rather	rather	ADV	RB	ExtPos=CCONJ	8	cc	_	_
7	than	than	ADP	IN	_	6	fixed	_	_
8	measurements	measurement	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	5	conj	_	_
9	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	13	punct	_	_
10	like	like	ADP	IN	_	13	case	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=13:mark|HaikuPos=SCONJ:IN:_
11	Kyiv	Kyiv	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	13	nmod:poss	_	_
12	's	's	PART	POS	_	11	case	_	_
13	founding	found	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	8	acl	_	_
14	in	in	ADP	IN	_	15	case	_	_
15	AD	ad	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	13	nmod	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=13:obl
16	482	482	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	15	flat	_	_
17	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	27	punct	_	Agree=R2-punct-next|Haiku=5:punct
18	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	20	cc	_	_
19	big	big	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	20	amod	_	_
20	claims	claim	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	27	nsubj	_	_
21	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	23	punct	_	_
22	like	like	ADP	IN	_	23	case	_	_
23	aliens	alien	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	20	nmod	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=20:conj
24	building	build	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	20	acl	_	_
25	Stonehenge	Stonehenge	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	24	obj	_	_
26	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	20	punct	_	_
27	need	need	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	conj	_	_
28	evidence	evidence	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	27	obj	_	_
29	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	32	punct	_	_
30	archaeologists	archaeologist	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	32	nsubj	_	_
31	have	have	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	32	aux	_	_
32	found	find	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	5	parataxis	_	_
33	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	34	det	_	_
34	tools	tool	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	32	obj	_	_
35	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	36	punct	_	_
36	homes	home	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	34	conj	_	_
37	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	38	cc	_	_
38	bones	bone	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	34	conj	_	_
39	of	of	ADP	IN	_	41	case	_	_
40	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	41	det	_	_
41	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	34	nmod	_	Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=38:nmod
42	who	who	PRON	WP	PronType=Rel	44	nsubj	_	_
43	really	really	ADV	RB	_	44	advmod	_	_
44	built	build	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	41	acl:relcl	_	_
45	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	44	obj	_	_
46	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	5	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: narrator
- polarity: none
- teacher: changed act=assert, polarity=none

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is a** | present | some old dates | traditions rather measurements |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **found** | gerund | measurements *not said here* |  |  | AD |  |  | vn establish-55.5-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **build** | gerund | big claims like aliens *not said here* | Stonehenge |  |  |  |  | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.asset V NP»: agent=Asset stonehenge=Product |
| 4 | **need** | present | big claims like aliens | evidence |  |  |  |  | vn want-32.1-1-1 «NP V NP ADV»: agent=Pivot evidence=Theme |
| 5 | **find** | present · perfect | archaeologists | the tools of the people and homes and bones |  |  |  |  | vn discover-84 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent tool=Topic |
| 6 | **build** | past | the people | evidence |  |  |  |  | vn build-26.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent it=Product |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:world:125-bc-ad-dinosaurs-pyramids-timelines.lesson:11`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R2-punct-next ×1, R5-strong ×1, R7-rel-agree ×3. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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