--- title: But there usually is a real reason, and saying it helps: children of… — "Because I said so" and other dead-end reasons · tree and pragmatics description: But there usually is a real reason, and saying it helps: children of 9 or 10 need about 9 to 11 hours of sleep to grow and learn, and vegetables give fibre and vitamins. Who acts: real reason, reason, children, vegetables. 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The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (real reason, reason, children, vegetables), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree. ## The tree {#tree} ```conllu # sent_id = school:world:163-because-i-said-so-dead-end-reasons.lesson:9 # text = But there usually is a real reason, and saying it helps: children of 9 or 10 need about 9 to 11 hours of sleep to grow and learn, and vegetables give fibre and vitamins. # source = school lesson (ours) # course = world # lesson = 163-because-i-said-so-dead-end-reasons.lesson # annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×3, R7-rel-agree ×2 1 But but CCONJ CC _ 4 cc _ _ 2 there there PRON EX _ 4 expl _ _ 3 usually usually ADV RB _ 4 advmod _ _ 4 is be VERB VBZ Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin 0 root _ _ 5 a a DET DT Definite=Ind|PronType=Art 7 det _ _ 6 real real ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 7 amod _ _ 7 reason reason NOUN NN Number=Sing 4 nsubj _ _ 8 , , PUNCT , _ 10 punct _ _ 9 and and CCONJ CC _ 10 cc _ _ 10 saying say VERB VBG Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part 7 conj _ _ 11 it it PRON PRP Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs 12 nsubj _ _ 12 helps help VERB VBZ Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin 10 ccomp _ _ 13 : : PUNCT : _ 14 punct _ _ 14 children child NOUN NNS Number=Plur 19 nsubj _ Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=19:obj 15 of of ADP IN _ 16 case _ _ 16 9 9 NUM CD NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card 14 nmod _ _ 17 or or CCONJ CC _ 18 cc _ _ 18 10 10 NUM CD NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card 16 conj _ _ 19 need need VERB VBP Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin 4 parataxis _ Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=12:parataxis 20 about about ADV RB _ 21 advmod _ Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=21:case|HaikuPos=ADP:IN:_ 21 9 9 NUM CD NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card 24 nummod _ _ 22 to to ADP IN _ 23 case _ Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=24:case 23 11 11 NUM CD NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card 24 nummod _ _ 24 hours hour NOUN NNS Number=Plur 19 obj _ _ 25 of of ADP IN _ 26 case _ _ 26 sleep sleep NOUN NN Number=Sing 24 nmod _ _ 27 to to PART TO _ 28 mark _ _ 28 grow grow VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 19 advcl _ _ 29 and and CCONJ CC _ 30 cc _ _ 30 learn learn VERB VB VerbForm=Inf 28 conj _ _ 31 , , PUNCT , _ 34 punct _ _ 32 and and CCONJ CC _ 34 cc _ _ 33 vegetables vegetable NOUN NNS Number=Plur 34 nsubj _ _ 34 give give VERB VBP Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin 19 conj _ Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=12:conj 35 fibre fibre NOUN NN Number=Sing 34 obj _ _ 36 and and CCONJ CC _ 37 cc _ _ 37 vitamins vitamin NOUN NNS Number=Plur 35 conj _ _ 38 . . PUNCT . _ 4 punct _ _ ``` ## Pragmatics {#pragmatics} - form: statement - act: assert - voice: narrator - polarity: none - teacher: kept the draft | # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 1 | **be** | present | a real reason | | | there | | usually *property* | vn exist-47.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme | | 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | gerund | a real reason *not said here* | | | | | | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic | | 3 | **help** | present | reason | | | | | | vn help-72.1-1-1 «NP V PP.theme»: agent=Agent | | 4 | **need** | present | children of 9 | | | | hour | | vn want-32.1-1-1 «NP V NP S\_INF»: agent=Pivot | | 5 | **grow** | to-infinitive | children of 9 *not said here* | | | | | | vn appear-48.1.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme | | 6 | **learn** | infinitive | children of 9 *not said here* | | | | | | vn learn-14-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent | | 7 | **give** | present | vegetables | fibre and vitamins | | | | | vn give-13.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent fibre=Theme | One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree. **Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:world:163-because-i-said-so-dead-end-reasons.lesson:9`. **The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×3, R7-rel-agree ×2. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence. See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/). - ← previous: ["Because I said so" and other dead-end…, 8](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/school/world/163-because-i-said-so-dead-end-reasons/8/) - next →: ["Because I said so" and other dead-end…, 10](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/school/world/163-because-i-said-so-dead-end-reasons/10/) - ↑ back to [the lesson](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/school/world/163-because-i-said-so-dead-end-reasons/)