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title: Saying something louder does not make it truer; if nobody saw clearl… — The football argument that goes in circles · tree and pragmatics
description: Saying something louder does not make it truer; if nobody saw clearly, agree a fair way to settle it, like a replay or a coin toss. Who acts: Saying, nobody. A sentence of the lesson «The football argument that goes in circles» of the world course of Mova's primary school with its dependency tree an
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# The football argument that goes in circles, sentence 16

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Saying something louder does not make it truer; if nobody saw clearly, agree a fair way to settle it, like a replay or a coin toss.

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**Who acts:** Saying, nobody · **What happens:** say, not make, see, agree, settle · **To what, where:** something, count, fair way · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «The football argument that goes in circles» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (Saying, nobody), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:world:170-the-football-argument-that-goes-in-circles.lesson:16
# text = Saying something louder does not make it truer; if nobody saw clearly, agree a fair way to settle it, like a replay or a coin toss.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = world
# lesson = 170-the-football-argument-that-goes-in-circles.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R7-rel-agree ×1
1	Saying	say	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	6	csubj	_	_
2	something	something	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	1	obj	_	_
3	louder	loud	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	2	amod	_	_
4	does	do	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	aux	_	_
5	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	6	advmod	_	_
6	make	make	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
7	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	6	obj	_	_
8	truer	true	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	6	xcomp	_	_
9	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	12	punct	_	_
10	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	12	mark	_	_
11	nobody	nobody	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Neg	12	nsubj	_	_
12	saw	see	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	15	advcl	_	_
13	clearly	clearly	ADV	RB	_	12	advmod	_	_
14	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	15	punct	_	_
15	agree	agree	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	6	parataxis	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=6:conj
16	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	18	det	_	_
17	fair	fair	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	18	amod	_	_
18	way	way	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	15	obj	_	_
19	to	to	PART	TO	_	20	mark	_	_
20	settle	settle	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	18	acl	_	_
21	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	20	obj	_	_
22	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	25	punct	_	_
23	like	like	ADP	IN	_	25	case	_	_
24	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	25	det	_	_
25	replay	replay	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	15	obl	_	_
26	or	or	CCONJ	CC	_	29	cc	_	_
27	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	29	det	_	_
28	coin	coin	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	29	compound	_	_
29	toss	toss	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	25	conj	_	_
30	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	6	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: narrator
- polarity: none
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | gerund |  | something |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent something=Topic |
| 2 | **not** **make** | present · do-support | Saying | count |  |  |  | true *property* | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.asset V NP»: agent=Asset it=Product |
| 3 | **see** *a condition, not said to happen* | past | nobody |  |  |  |  | clearly *property* | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1 «NP V»: agent=Experiencer |
| 4 | **agree** *speech: agree* | infinitive |  | a fair way |  |  |  | like a replay or a coin toss | vn correspond-36.1-1 «NP V S»: agent=Agent way=Topic |
| 5 | **settle** | to-infinitive |  | count |  |  |  |  | vn odge-46-1 «NP V ADV»: agent=Theme it=Location |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:world:170-the-football-argument-that-goes-in-circles.lesson:16`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R7-rel-agree ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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