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title: Being talked about does not make a plan good; people talk about bad… — The politician's either-or and the straw man · tree and pragmatics
description: Being talked about does not make a plan good; people talk about bad ideas too. Who acts: people. A sentence of the lesson «The politician's either-or and the straw man» of the world course of Mova's primary school with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of every clause.
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# The politician's either-or and the straw man, sentence 16

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Being talked about does not make a plan good; people talk about bad ideas too.

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**Who acts:** people · **What happens:** talk about, not make, talk · **To what, where:** plan

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This is a sentence of the lesson «The politician's either-or and the straw man» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (people), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:world:178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man.lesson:16
# text = Being talked about does not make a plan good; people talk about bad ideas too.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = world
# lesson = 178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R7-rel-agree ×1
1	Being	be	AUX	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	2	aux:pass	_	_
2	talked	talk	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	6	csubj	_	_
3	about	about	ADP	IN	_	2	compound:prt	_	_
4	does	do	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	aux	_	_
5	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	6	advmod	_	_
6	make	make	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
7	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	8	det	_	_
8	plan	plan	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	6	obj	_	_
9	good	good	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	8	amod	_	_
10	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	12	punct	_	_
11	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	12	nsubj	_	_
12	talk	talk	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	parataxis	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=6:conj
13	about	about	ADP	IN	_	15	case	_	_
14	bad	bad	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	15	amod	_	_
15	ideas	idea	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	12	obl	_	_
16	too	too	ADV	RB	_	12	advmod	_	_
17	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	6	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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No stored speech act for this sentence.

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **talk about** | gerund · passive |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn talk-37.5 «NP V» |
| 2 | **not** **make** | present · do-support |  | a plan |  |  |  |  | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.asset V NP»: agent=Asset plan=Product |
| 3 | **talk** | present | people |  |  |  |  | about bad ideas | vn talk-37.5 «NP V PP.topic»: agent=Agent about idea=Topic |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:world:178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man.lesson:16`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R7-rel-agree ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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