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title: "If you're not with us, you're against children" is an either-or too… — The politician's either-or and the straw man · tree and pragmatics
description: "If you're not with us, you're against children" is an either-or too: people can care about the same thing and disagree about how to help. Who acts: you, people. A sentence of the lesson «The politician's either-or and the straw man» of the world course of Mova's primary school with its dependency t
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# The politician's either-or and the straw man, sentence 9

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"If you're not with us, you're against children" is an either-or too: people can care about the same thing and disagree about how to help.

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**Who acts:** you, people · **What happens:** not be, be, care, disagree, help

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This is a sentence of the lesson «The politician's either-or and the straw man» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (you, people), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:world:178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man.lesson:9
# text = "If you're not with us, you're against children" is an either-or too: people can care about the same thing and disagree about how to help.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = world
# lesson = 178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): no change
1	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	7	punct	_	_
2	If	if	SCONJ	IN	_	7	mark	_	_
3	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	7	nsubj	_	_
4	're	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	7	cop	_	_
5	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	7	advmod	_	_
6	with	with	ADP	IN	_	7	case	_	_
7	us	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	16	nsubj	_	_
8	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	12	punct	_	_
9	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	12	nsubj	_	_
10	're	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	12	cop	_	_
11	against	against	ADP	IN	_	12	case	_	_
12	children	child	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	7	conj	_	_
13	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	7	punct	_	_
14	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	16	cop	_	_
15	an	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	16	det	_	_
16	either	either	CCONJ	CC	_	0	root	_	_
17	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	16	punct	_	_
18	or	or	CCONJ	CC	_	19	cc	_	_
19	too	too	ADV	RB	_	16	conj	_	_
20	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	16	punct	_	_
21	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	23	nsubj	_	_
22	can	can	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	23	aux	_	_
23	care	care	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	16	parataxis	_	_
24	about	about	ADP	IN	_	27	case	_	_
25	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	27	det	_	_
26	same	same	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	27	amod	_	_
27	thing	thing	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	23	obl	_	_
28	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	29	cc	_	_
29	disagree	disagree	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	23	conj	_	_
30	about	about	SCONJ	IN	_	33	mark	_	_
31	how	how	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	33	advmod	_	_
32	to	to	PART	TO	_	33	mark	_	_
33	help	help	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	29	ccomp	_	_
34	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	16	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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- form: statement
- act: assert
- voice: character
- polarity: neg
- teacher: kept the draft

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **not** **is** *in a quote* | present | you |  |  |  |  | with us | tree rules |
| 2 | **is** *in a quote* | present | you |  |  |  |  | against children | tree rules |
| 3 | **care** | can | people |  |  |  |  | about the same thing | vn care-88.1-1 «NP V PP.stimulus what S»: agent=Experiencer about thing=Stimulus |
| 4 | **disagree** | infinitive | people *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 5 | **help** | to-infinitive | people *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn help-72.1-1-1 «NP V PP.theme»: agent=Agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:world:178-the-politicians-either-or-and-the-straw-man.lesson:9`.

**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): no change. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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