--- title: A straw man repeats the other person's idea as something more extrem… — Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts… · tree and pragmatics description: A straw man repeats the other person's idea as something more extreme or sillier, then attacks that instead. Who acts: straw man. A sentence of the lesson «Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts, no either-or» of the world course of Mova's primary school with its dependency tree and the pr --- [Mova](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/) · [this page in HTML](https://mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/school/world/189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or/10/) [home](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/) / [corpora](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/) / [school](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/school/) / [World](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/school/world/) / [Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving…](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/corpora/school/world/189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or/) / 10 # Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts, no either-or, sentence 10 A straw man repeats the other person's idea as something more extreme or sillier, then attacks that instead. **Who acts:** straw man · **What happens:** repeat, attack · **To what, where:** idea, that This is a sentence of the lesson «Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts, no either-or» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (straw man), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree. ## The tree {#tree} ```conllu # sent_id = school:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or.lesson:10 # text = A straw man repeats the other person's idea as something more extreme or sillier, then attacks that instead. # source = school lesson (ours) # course = world # lesson = 189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or.lesson # annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): no change 1 A a DET DT Definite=Ind|PronType=Art 3 det _ _ 2 straw straw ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 3 amod _ _ 3 man man NOUN NN Number=Sing 4 nsubj _ _ 4 repeats repeat VERB VBZ Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin 0 root _ _ 5 the the DET DT Definite=Def|PronType=Art 7 det _ _ 6 other other ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 7 amod _ _ 7 person person NOUN NN Number=Sing 9 nmod:poss _ _ 8 's 's PART POS _ 7 case _ _ 9 idea idea NOUN NN Number=Sing 4 obj _ _ 10 as as ADP IN _ 11 case _ _ 11 something something PRON NN Number=Sing|PronType=Ind 4 obl _ _ 12 more more ADV RBR Degree=Cmp 13 advmod _ _ 13 extreme extreme ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 11 amod _ _ 14 or or CCONJ CC _ 15 cc _ _ 15 sillier silly ADJ JJR Degree=Cmp 13 conj _ _ 16 , , PUNCT , _ 18 punct _ _ 17 then then ADV RB PronType=Dem 18 advmod _ _ 18 attacks attack VERB VBZ Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin 4 conj _ _ 19 that that PRON DT PronType=Dem 18 obj _ _ 20 instead instead ADV RB _ 18 advmod _ _ 21 . . PUNCT . _ 4 punct _ _ ``` ## Pragmatics {#pragmatics} No stored speech act for this sentence. | # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 1 | **repeat** | present | a straw man | the other person's idea | | | | as something | vn begin-55.1-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent idea=Eventuality | | 2 | **attack** | present | a straw man *not said here* | that | | | then | instead *property* | vn attack-60.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent that=Patient | One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree. **Licence: [CC BY-SA 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/)**, as the whole of Mova corpus 0.4, of which this treebank (the agreed school, `mova-school-agreed-en.conllu`) is part. The lessons were written for Mova's primary school. Sentence `school:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or.lesson:10`. **The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): no change. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence. 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