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title: Fair fighting is simple: say back what the other person really said… — Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts… · tree and pragmatics
description: Fair fighting is simple: say back what the other person really said ("Do you mean...?"), agree what would change your mind before you start, and look for the middle options. Who acts: Fair fighting, other person, you, your. A sentence of the lesson «Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts, 
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# Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts, no either-or, sentence 9

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Fair fighting is simple: say back what the other person really said ("Do you mean...?"), agree what would change your mind before you start, and look for the middle options.

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**Who acts:** Fair fighting, other person, you, your · **What happens:** be, say back, say, mean, agree, change · **To what, where:** mind · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of the lesson «Fighting fair: no straw men, no moving goalposts, no either-or» of the world course of Mova's primary school. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (Fair fighting, other person, you, your), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = school:world:189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or.lesson:9
# text = Fair fighting is simple: say back what the other person really said ("Do you mean...?"), agree what would change your mind before you start, and look for the middle options.
# source = school lesson (ours)
# course = world
# lesson = 189-fighting-fair-no-straw-men-no-moving-goalposts-no-either-or.lesson
# annotation = Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1, R7-rel-agree ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1
1	Fair	fair	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	2	amod	_	_
2	fighting	fighting	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	4	nsubj	_	_
3	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	cop	_	_
4	simple	simple	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
5	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	6	punct	_	_
6	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	4	parataxis	_	Agree=R7-rel-agree|Haiku=4:csubj
7	back	back	ADV	RB	_	6	advmod	_	Agree=R5-strong|Haiku=8:advmod
8	what	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	13	obj	_	_
9	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
10	other	other	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	11	amod	_	_
11	person	person	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	13	nsubj	_	_
12	really	really	ADV	RB	_	13	advmod	_	_
13	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	6	ccomp	_	_
14	(	(	PUNCT	-LRB-	_	18	punct	_	_
15	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	18	punct	_	_
16	Do	do	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	18	aux	_	_
17	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	18	nsubj	_	_
18	mean	mean	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	13	ccomp	_	_
19	...	...	PUNCT	,	_	18	punct	_	_
20	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	18	punct	_	_
21	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	18	punct	_	_
22	)	)	PUNCT	-RRB-	_	18	punct	_	_
23	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	24	punct	_	_
24	agree	agree	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	6	conj	_	Agree=R8-pos-agree|Haiku=6:conj|HaikuPos=VERB:VBP:Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin
25	what	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	27	obj	_	_
26	would	would	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	27	aux	_	_
27	change	change	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	24	ccomp	_	_
28	your	your	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	29	nmod:poss	_	_
29	mind	mind	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	27	obj	_	_
30	before	before	SCONJ	IN	_	32	mark	_	_
31	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	32	nsubj	_	_
32	start	start	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	27	advcl	_	_
33	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	35	punct	_	_
34	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	35	cc	_	_
35	look	look	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	6	conj	_	_
36	for	for	ADP	IN	_	39	case	_	_
37	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	39	det	_	_
38	middle	middle	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	39	amod	_	_
39	options	option	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	35	obl	_	_
40	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	4	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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No stored speech act for this sentence.

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | Fair fighting |  |  |  |  | simple *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **say back** *speech: assert* | infinitive |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V how S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 3 | **say** *speech: ask* | past | the other person |  |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 4 | **mean** *in a quote* | present · do-support | you |  |  |  |  |  | vn intend-61.2-1 «NP V S»: agent=Agent |
| 5 | **agree** *speech: agree* | infinitive |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn correspond-36.1-1 «NP V what S\_INF»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 6 | **change** | would |  | your mind |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 7 | **start** | present | you |  |  |  |  |  | vn begin-55.1-1-1 «NP.eventuality V»: agent=Eventuality |
| 8 | **look** | infinitive |  |  |  |  |  | for the middle options | vn rummage-35.5 «NP V PP.location PP.theme»: agent=Agent for option=Theme |
| 9 | **mind** |  | your |  |  |  |  |  | nom mind «cognition transitive»: poss=agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**The tree:** Mova annot: Rust (en) → Haiku 5.5 (medium, Batches API) patches; gates UD 2.18; agreed by treeagree rules (Stanza, Trankit, spaCy trf): R5-strong ×1, R7-rel-agree ×1, R8-pos-agree ×1. **The frames** are read from the tree by Mova's frames reader (`prag`) when this page is built, the lesson read in order, so a pronoun may be resolved from an earlier sentence.

See the [release 0.4](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/releases/0.4/).

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