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title: "That's no for me to say," says she, "find out for thyself, my lad!… — More English Fairy Tales · tree and pragmatics
description: "That's no for me to say," says she, "find out for thyself, my lad! if thou doesn't want to be a fool all thy days. Who acts: me, Jest, thou. A sentence of «More English Fairy Tales» by Joseph Jacobs, More English Fairy Tales, part 12, with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of every clause.
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# More English Fairy Tales, More English Fairy Tales, part 12, sentence 21

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"That's no for me to say," says she, "find out for thyself, my lad! if thou doesn't want to be a fool all thy days.

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**Who acts:** me, Jest, thou · **What happens:** say, find out, not want, be · **To what, where:** fool · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of «More English Fairy Tales» by Joseph Jacobs, More English Fairy Tales, part 12. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (me, Jest, thou), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Parsed by Mova, not checked by a teacher.** This tree is Mova's own parse (the `en` model, on the CPU, when the site is built); it may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg14241:26:21
# text = "That's no for me to say," says she, "find out for thyself, my lad! if thou doesn't want to be a fool all thy days.
1	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	That	that	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	4	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	's	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	cop	_	_
4	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	11	det	_	_
5	for	for	SCONJ	IN	_	8	mark	_	_
6	me	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	8	nsubj	_	_
7	to	to	PART	TO	_	8	mark	_	_
8	say	say	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	11	advcl	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	8	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	11	punct	_	_
11	says	say	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
12	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	15	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	15	punct	_	_
14	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	15	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	find	find	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	11	ccomp	_	_
16	out	out	ADP	RP	_	15	compound:prt	_	_
17	for	for	ADP	IN	_	18	case	_	_
18	thyself	thyself	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Reflex=Yes|Style=Arch	15	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
19	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	21	punct	_	_
20	my	my	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Sing|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	21	nmod:poss	_	_
21	lad	lad	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	15	parataxis	_	SpaceAfter=No
22	!	!	PUNCT	.	_	21	punct	_	_
23	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	27	mark	_	_
24	thou	thou	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=2|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	27	nsubj	_	_
25	does	do	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	27	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
26	n't	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	27	advmod	_	_
27	want	want	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	15	ccomp	_	_
28	to	to	PART	TO	_	31	mark	_	_
29	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	31	cop	_	_
30	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	31	det	_	_
31	fool	fool	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	27	xcomp	_	_
32	all	all	DET	PDT	PronType=Tot	34	det:predet	_	_
33	thy	thy	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Sing|Person=2|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs|Style=Arch	34	nmod:poss	_	_
34	days	day	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	27	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
35	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	11	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* *in a quote* | to-infinitive | me |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 2 | **say** *speech: express* | present |  |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 3 | **find out** *in a quote* | infinitive | Jest |  |  |  |  | for thyself | vn learn-14-2-1 «NP V what S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 4 | **not** **want** *a condition, not said to happen, in a quote* | present · do-support | thou |  |  |  | day |  | vn want-32.1-1-1 «NP V NP S\_INF»: agent=Pivot |
| 5 | **is a** *not said to happen, in a quote* | to-infinitive | thou *not said here* | a fool |  |  |  |  | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «More English Fairy Tales» by Joseph Jacobs, Project Gutenberg book 14241 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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