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title: They knew not themselves how old they were; but they could remember… — Fairy Tales of Hans Christian Andersen · tree and pragmatics
description: They knew not themselves how old they were; but they could remember the time when there were a great many more of them, and that they were descended from a family which came from foreign lands, and that the whole forest had been planted for them and theirs. Who acts: snails, a, family. A sentence of
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# Fairy Tales of Hans Christian Andersen, The Happy Family, sentence 8

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They knew not themselves how old they were; but they could remember the time when there were a great many more of them, and that they were descended from a family which came from foreign lands, and that the whole forest had been planted for them and theirs.

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**Who acts:** snails, a, family · **What happens:** not know, be, remember, descend, come, plant · **To what, where:** snails, family, foreign lands, whole forest · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of «Fairy Tales of Hans Christian Andersen» by H. C. Andersen, The Happy Family. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (snails, a, family), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Parsed by Mova, not checked by a teacher.** This tree is Mova's own parse (the `en` model, on the CPU, when the site is built); it may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg27200:48:8
# text = They knew not themselves how old they were; but they could remember the time when there were a great many more of them, and that they were descended from a family which came from foreign lands, and that the whole forest had been planted for them and theirs.
1	They	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	2	nsubj	_	_
2	knew	know	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	2	advmod	_	_
4	themselves	themselves	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs|Reflex=Yes	2	obl	_	_
5	how	how	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	6	advmod	_	_
6	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	2	ccomp	_	_
7	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	6	nsubj	_	_
8	were	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	6	cop	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	13	punct	_	_
10	but	but	CCONJ	CC	_	13	cc	_	_
11	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	13	nsubj	_	_
12	could	could	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	13	aux	_	_
13	remember	remember	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	conj	_	_
14	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	15	det	_	_
15	time	time	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	13	obj	_	_
16	when	when	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	18	advmod	_	_
17	there	there	PRON	EX	PronType=Dem	18	expl	_	_
18	were	be	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	13	ccomp	_	_
19	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	18	nsubj	_	_
20	great	great	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	30	advcl	_	_
21	many	many	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	22	amod	_	_
22	more	more	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	20	conj	_	_
23	of	of	ADP	IN	_	24	case	_	_
24	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	22	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
25	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	30	punct	_	_
26	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	30	cc	_	_
27	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	30	mark	_	_
28	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	30	nsubj	_	_
29	were	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	30	aux:pass	_	_
30	descended	descend	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	19	acl	_	_
31	from	from	ADP	IN	_	33	case	_	_
32	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	33	det	_	_
33	family	family	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	30	obl	_	_
34	which	which	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	35	nsubj	_	_
35	came	come	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	33	acl:relcl	_	_
36	from	from	ADP	IN	_	38	case	_	_
37	foreign	foreign	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	38	amod	_	_
38	lands	land	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	35	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
39	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	47	punct	_	_
40	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	47	cc	_	_
41	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	47	mark	_	_
42	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	44	det	_	_
43	whole	whole	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	44	amod	_	_
44	forest	forest	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	47	nsubj:pass	_	_
45	had	have	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	47	aux	_	_
46	been	be	AUX	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	47	aux:pass	_	_
47	planted	plant	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	30	conj	_	_
48	for	for	ADP	IN	_	49	case	_	_
49	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	47	obl	_	_
50	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	51	cc	_	_
51	theirs	their	PRON	PRP	Number=Plur|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	49	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
52	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **not** **know** | past | snails *= snail* | snails *= snail* |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1-1 «NP V»: agent=Experiencer |
| 2 | **is** | past | snails *= snail* |  |  |  |  | old *property* | tree rules |
| 3 | **remember** | could | snails *= snail* |  |  |  | time |  | vn characterize-29.2-1-1 «NP V what S»: agent=Agent clause=Theme |
| 4 | **be** | past | a |  |  | there |  |  | vn exist-47.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 5 | **descend** | past · passive |  | snails *= snail* |  | a family |  |  | vn meander-47.7-1 «PP.location V NP»: subject=Theme |
| 6 | **come** | past | a family |  |  | foreign lands |  |  | vn escape-51.1-1 «NP V PP.initial\_location»: agent=Theme from land=Initial\_Location |
| 7 | **plant** | past · perfect · passive |  | the whole forest |  |  |  | for snails *= snail* | vn establish-55.5-1 «NP V NP»: subject=Patient |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «Fairy Tales of Hans Christian Andersen» by H. C. Andersen, Project Gutenberg book 27200 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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