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title: All the same, he had no manners then, and he has no manners now, and… — Just so stories · tree and pragmatics
description: All the same, he had no manners then, and he has no manners now, and he never will have any manners. Who acts: Rhinoceros. A sentence of «Just so stories» by Rudyard Kipling, How the Rhinoceros Got His Skin, with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of every clause.
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# Just so stories, How the Rhinoceros Got His Skin, sentence 9

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All the same, he had no manners then, and he has no manners now, and he never will have any manners.

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**Who acts:** Rhinoceros · **What happens:** have, not have · **To what, where:** manners

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This is a sentence of «Just so stories» by Rudyard Kipling, How the Rhinoceros Got His Skin. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (Rhinoceros), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Parsed by Mova, not checked by a teacher.** This tree is Mova's own parse (the `en` model, on the CPU, when the site is built); it may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg2781:4:9
# text = All the same, he had no manners then, and he has no manners now, and he never will have any manners.
1	All	all	DET	PDT	PronType=Tot	3	det:predet	_	_
2	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
3	same	same	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
4	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	6	punct	_	_
5	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	6	nsubj	_	_
6	had	have	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	3	parataxis	_	_
7	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	8	det	_	_
8	manners	manners	NOUN	NNS	Number=Ptan	6	obj	_	_
9	then	then	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	6	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	13	punct	_	_
11	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	13	cc	_	_
12	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	13	nsubj	_	_
13	has	have	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	6	parataxis	_	_
14	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	15	det	_	_
15	manners	manners	NOUN	NNS	Number=Ptan	13	obj	_	_
16	now	now	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	13	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
17	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	22	punct	_	_
18	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	22	cc	_	_
19	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	22	nsubj	_	_
20	never	never	ADV	RB	PronType=Neg	22	advmod	_	_
21	will	will	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	22	aux	_	_
22	have	have	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	13	conj	_	_
23	any	any	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	24	det	_	_
24	manners	manners	NOUN	NNS	Number=Ptan	22	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
25	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **have** | past | Rhinoceros | no manners |  |  | then |  | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent manners=Patient |
| 2 | **have** | present | Rhinoceros | no manners |  |  | now |  | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent manners=Patient |
| 3 | **not** **have** | future | Rhinoceros | any manners |  |  |  |  | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent manners=Patient |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «Just so stories» by Rudyard Kipling, Project Gutenberg book 2781 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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