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title: There are some who say, however, that Fiachna the Black was killed i… — Irish Fairy Tales · tree and pragmatics
description: There are some who say, however, that Fiachna the Black was killed in the year 624 by the lord of the Scot’s Dal Riada, Condad Cerr, at the battle of Ard Carainn; but the people who say this do not know what they are talking about, and they do not care greatly what it is they say. Who acts: some, lo
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# Irish Fairy Tales, Chapter IX, sentence 21

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There are some who say, however, that Fiachna the Black was killed in the year 624 by the lord of the Scot’s Dal Riada, Condad Cerr, at the battle of Ard Carainn; but the people who say this do not know what they are talking about, and they do not care greatly what it is they say.

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**Who acts:** some, lord, people, person · **What happens:** be, say, kill, not know, talk about, not care · **To what, where:** Fiachna, battle, this, Ard · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of «Irish Fairy Tales» by James Stephens, Chapter IX. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (some, lord, people, person), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Parsed by Mova, not checked by a teacher.** This tree is Mova's own parse (the `en` model, on the CPU, when the site is built); it may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg2892:80:21
# text = There are some who say, however, that Fiachna the Black was killed in the year 624 by the lord of the Scot’s Dal Riada, Condad Cerr, at the battle of Ard Carainn; but the people who say this do not know what they are talking about, and they do not care greatly what it is they say.
1	There	there	PRON	EX	PronType=Dem	2	expl	_	_
2	are	be	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
3	some	some	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	5	nsubj	_	_
4	who	who	PRON	WP	PronType=Rel	5	nsubj	_	_
5	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	2	parataxis	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
7	however	however	ADV	RB	_	5	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	14	punct	_	_
9	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	14	mark	_	_
10	Fiachna	Fiachna	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	14	nsubj:pass	_	_
11	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	12	det	_	_
12	Black	Black	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	10	flat	_	_
13	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	14	aux:pass	_	_
14	killed	kill	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	5	conj	_	_
15	in	in	ADP	IN	_	17	case	_	_
16	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	17	det	_	_
17	year	year	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	obl	_	_
18	624	624	NUM	CD	NumForm=Digit|NumType=Card	17	flat	_	_
19	by	by	ADP	IN	_	21	case	_	_
20	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	21	det	_	_
21	lord	lord	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	obl	_	_
22	of	of	ADP	IN	_	26	case	_	_
23	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	24	det	_	_
24	Scot	Scot	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	26	nmod:poss	_	SpaceAfter=No
25	’s	's	PART	POS	_	24	case	_	_
26	Dal	Dal	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	21	nmod	_	_
27	Riada	Riada	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	26	flat	_	SpaceAfter=No
28	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	29	punct	_	_
29	Condad	Condad	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	26	conj	_	_
30	Cerr	Cerr	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	29	flat	_	SpaceAfter=No
31	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	34	punct	_	_
32	at	at	ADP	IN	_	34	case	_	_
33	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	34	det	_	_
34	battle	battle	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	obl	_	_
35	of	of	ADP	IN	_	36	case	_	_
36	Ard	Ard	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	34	nmod	_	_
37	Carainn	Carainn	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	36	flat	_	SpaceAfter=No
38	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	47	punct	_	_
39	but	but	CCONJ	CC	_	47	cc	_	_
40	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	41	det	_	_
41	people	people	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	47	nsubj	_	_
42	who	who	PRON	WP	PronType=Rel	43	nsubj	_	_
43	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	41	acl:relcl	_	_
44	this	this	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	43	obj	_	_
45	do	do	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	47	aux	_	_
46	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	47	advmod	_	_
47	know	know	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	parataxis	_	_
48	what	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Rel	51	obl	_	_
49	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	51	nsubj	_	_
50	are	be	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	51	aux	_	_
51	talking	talk	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	47	ccomp	_	_
52	about	about	ADP	IN	_	51	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
53	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	58	punct	_	_
54	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	58	cc	_	_
55	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	58	nsubj	_	_
56	do	do	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	58	aux	_	_
57	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	58	advmod	_	_
58	care	care	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	2	parataxis	_	_
59	greatly	greatly	ADV	RB	_	58	advmod	_	_
60	what	what	PRON	WP	PronType=Int	64	obj	_	_
61	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	64	nsubj	_	_
62	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	64	cop	_	_
63	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	64	nsubj	_	_
64	say	say	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	58	advcl	_	SpaceAfter=No
65	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **be** | present |  |  |  | there |  |  | vn exist-47.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | some |  |  |  |  | however *property* | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **kill** | past · passive | the lord of the Scot's Dal and Condad | Fiachna |  | the battle of Ard | year |  | vn remove-10.1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent subject=Theme |
| 4 | **say** *speech: assert* | present | the people | this |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V NP.topic»: agent=Agent this=Topic |
| 5 | **not** **know** | present · do-support | the people |  |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1-1 «NP V how S\_INF»: agent=Experiencer clause=Stimulus |
| 6 | **talk about** | present · progressive | people |  |  |  |  |  | vn talk-37.5 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 7 | **not** **care** | present · do-support | people |  |  |  |  | greatly *property* | vn care-88.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Experiencer |
| 8 | **is** | present | person |  |  |  |  | say *property* | tree rules |
| 9 | **battle** |  |  | Ard |  |  |  |  | nom battle «act transitive»: of=patient |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «Irish Fairy Tales» by James Stephens, Project Gutenberg book 2892 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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