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title: But there was no use talking, his children said he _must_ go to scho… — Cossack Fairy Tales and Folk Tales · tree and pragmatics
description: But there was no use talking, his children said he _must_ go to school, and the voices of his children prevailed against his feeble old voice. Who acts: use, children, voices. A sentence of «Cossack Fairy Tales and Folk Tales», The Two Princes, part 1, with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of 
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# Cossack Fairy Tales and Folk Tales, The Two Princes, part 1, sentence 92

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But there was no use talking, his children said he \_must\_ go to school, and the voices of his children prevailed against his feeble old voice.

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**Who acts:** use, children, voices · **What happens:** be, talk, say, go, prevail · **To what, where:** school, feeble old voice · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of «Cossack Fairy Tales and Folk Tales», The Two Princes, part 1. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (use, children, voices), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Parsed by Mova, not checked by a teacher.** This tree is Mova's own parse (the `en` model, on the CPU, when the site is built); it may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg29672:22:92
# text = But there was no use talking, his children said he _must_ go to school, and the voices of his children prevailed against his feeble old voice.
1	But	but	CCONJ	CC	_	3	cc	_	_
2	there	there	PRON	EX	PronType=Dem	3	expl	_	_
3	was	be	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
4	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	5	det	_	_
5	use	use	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	3	nsubj	_	_
6	talking	talk	VERB	VBG	VerbForm=Ger	5	acl	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	10	punct	_	_
8	his	his	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	9	nmod:poss	_	_
9	children	child	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	10	nsubj	_	_
10	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	6	parataxis	_	_
11	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	15	nsubj	_	_
12	_	_	PUNCT	NFP	_	11	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	must	must	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	15	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	_	_	PUNCT	NFP	_	15	punct	_	_
15	go	go	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	10	ccomp	_	_
16	to	to	ADP	IN	_	17	case	_	_
17	school	school	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	15	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	25	punct	_	_
19	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	25	cc	_	_
20	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	21	det	_	_
21	voices	voice	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	25	nsubj	_	_
22	of	of	ADP	IN	_	24	case	_	_
23	his	his	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	24	nmod:poss	_	_
24	children	child	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	21	nmod	_	_
25	prevailed	prevail	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	10	conj	_	_
26	against	against	ADP	IN	_	30	case	_	_
27	his	his	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	30	nmod:poss	_	_
28	feeble	feeble	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	30	amod	_	_
29	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	30	amod	_	_
30	voice	voice	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	25	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
31	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
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## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **be** | past | no use |  |  | there |  |  | vn exist-47.1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 2 | **talk** | gerund | no use *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn talk-37.5 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | use's children |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 4 | **go** | must | use |  |  | school |  |  | vn escape-51.1-1 «NP V PP.initial\_location»: agent=Theme to school=Initial\_Location |
| 5 | **prevail** | past | the voices of use's children |  |  | use's feeble old voice |  |  | vn exist-47.1 «NP V PP.location»: agent=Theme against voice=Location |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «Cossack Fairy Tales and Folk Tales», Project Gutenberg book 29672 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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