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title: But when older and better informed persons said that ghosts brought… — The Lilac Fairy Book · tree and pragmatics
description: But when older and better informed persons said that ghosts brought their own light with them (which is too true), then one’s emotions were such as parents do not desire the young to endure. Who acts: older persons, ghosts, one emotions, parents. A sentence of «The Lilac Fairy Book» by Andrew Lang, 
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# The Lilac Fairy Book, The Lilac Fairy Book, part 1, sentence 60

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But when older and better informed persons said that ghosts brought their own light with them (which is too true), then one’s emotions were such as parents do not desire the young to endure.

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**Who acts:** older persons, ghosts, one emotions, parents, persons · **What happens:** say, bring, be, not desire, endure, light · **To what, where:** own light, young · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of «The Lilac Fairy Book» by Andrew Lang, The Lilac Fairy Book, part 1. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (older persons, ghosts, one emotions, parents), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Parsed by Mova, not checked by a teacher.** This tree is Mova's own parse (the `en` model, on the CPU, when the site is built); it may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg3454:1:60
# text = But when older and better informed persons said that ghosts brought their own light with them (which is too true), then one’s emotions were such as parents do not desire the young to endure.
1	But	but	CCONJ	CC	_	8	cc	_	_
2	when	when	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	8	advmod	_	_
3	older	old	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	7	amod	_	_
4	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	6	cc	_	_
5	better	well	ADV	RBR	Degree=Cmp	6	advmod	_	_
6	informed	informed	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	conj	_	_
7	persons	person	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	8	nsubj	_	_
8	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
9	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	11	mark	_	_
10	ghosts	ghost	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	11	nsubj	_	_
11	brought	bring	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	8	ccomp	_	_
12	their	their	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	14	nmod:poss	_	_
13	own	own	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	14	amod	_	_
14	light	light	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	11	obj	_	_
15	with	with	ADP	IN	_	16	case	_	_
16	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	11	obl	_	_
17	(	(	PUNCT	-LRB-	_	21	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	which	which	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	21	nsubj	_	_
19	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	21	cop	_	_
20	too	too	ADV	RB	_	21	advmod	_	_
21	true	true	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	11	parataxis	_	SpaceAfter=No
22	)	)	PUNCT	-RRB-	_	21	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
23	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	29	punct	_	_
24	then	then	ADV	RB	PronType=Dem	29	advmod	_	_
25	one	one	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	27	nummod	_	SpaceAfter=No
26	’s	's	PART	POS	_	25	case	_	_
27	emotions	emotion	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	29	nsubj	_	_
28	were	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	29	cop	_	_
29	such	such	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos|ExtPos=ADP	8	conj	_	_
30	as	as	SCONJ	IN	_	34	mark	_	_
31	parents	parent	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	34	nsubj	_	_
32	do	do	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	34	aux	_	_
33	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	34	advmod	_	_
34	desire	desire	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	29	advcl	_	_
35	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	36	det	_	_
36	young	young	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	34	obj	_	_
37	to	to	PART	TO	_	38	mark	_	_
38	endure	endure	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	36	acl	_	SpaceAfter=No
39	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	8	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | older persons |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 2 | **bring** | past | ghosts | persons's own light |  |  |  | with persons *= person* | vn bring-11.3-1 «NP V NP together»: agent=Agent light=Theme |
| 3 | **is** | present |  |  |  |  |  | true *property* | tree rules |
| 4 | **is** | past | one emotions |  |  |  | then | such *property* | tree rules |
| 5 | **not** **desire** | present · do-support | parents | the young |  |  |  |  | vn want-32.1-1-1 «NP V NP ADV»: agent=Pivot young=Theme |
| 6 | **endure** | to-infinitive | parents *not said here* | the young *not said here* |  |  |  |  | vn exist-47.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 7 | **light** |  | persons *= person* |  |  |  |  |  | nom light «phenomenon transitive»: poss=agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «The Lilac Fairy Book» by Andrew Lang, Project Gutenberg book 3454 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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