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title: But this old crone knew the way no better than the others--it was ea… — The Blue Fairy Book · tree and pragmatics
description: But this old crone knew the way no better than the others--it was east of the sun and west of the moon, she knew that, “and you will be a long time in getting to it, if ever you get to it at all,” she said; “but you may have the loan of my horse, and I think you had better ride to the East Wind, and
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# The Blue Fairy Book, East of the Sun and West of the Moon, sentence 80

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But this old crone knew the way no better than the others--it was east of the sun and west of the moon, she knew that, “and you will be a long time in getting to it, if ever you get to it at all,” she said; “but you may have the loan of my horse, and I think you had better ride to the East Wind, and ask him: perhaps he may know where the castle is, and will blow you thither.

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**Who acts:** old crone, way, crone, you, I, horse · **What happens:** know, be, get, say, have, think · **To what, where:** way, that, long time, all, loan, better ride · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of «The Blue Fairy Book» by Andrew Lang, East of the Sun and West of the Moon. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (old crone, way, crone, you), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Parsed by Mova, not checked by a teacher.** This tree is Mova's own parse (the `en` model, on the CPU, when the site is built); it may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg503:4:80
# text = But this old crone knew the way no better than the others--it was east of the sun and west of the moon, she knew that, “and you will be a long time in getting to it, if ever you get to it at all,” she said; “but you may have the loan of my horse, and I think you had better ride to the East Wind, and ask him: perhaps he may know where the castle is, and will blow you thither.
1	But	but	CCONJ	CC	_	5	cc	_	_
2	this	this	DET	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	4	det	_	_
3	old	old	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	4	amod	_	_
4	crone	crone	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nsubj	_	_
5	knew	know	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
6	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
7	way	way	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	obj	_	_
8	no	no	ADV	RB	_	9	advmod	_	_
9	better	good	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	7	amod	_	_
10	than	than	ADP	IN	_	12	case	_	_
11	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	12	det	_	_
12	others	other	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	9	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	--	--	PUNCT	,	_	19	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	19	nsubj	_	_
15	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	19	cop	_	_
16	east	east	ADV	RB	_	19	advmod	_	_
17	of	of	ADP	IN	_	19	case	_	_
18	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	19	det	_	_
19	sun	sun	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	obl	_	_
20	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	21	cc	_	_
21	west	west	ADV	RB	_	19	conj	_	_
22	of	of	ADP	IN	_	24	case	_	_
23	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	24	det	_	_
24	moon	moon	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	19	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
25	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	27	punct	_	_
26	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	27	nsubj	_	_
27	knew	know	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	5	parataxis	_	_
28	that	that	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	27	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
29	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	37	punct	_	_
30	“	"	PUNCT	``	_	37	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
31	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	37	cc	_	_
32	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	37	nsubj	_	_
33	will	will	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	37	aux	_	_
34	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	37	cop	_	_
35	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	37	det	_	_
36	long	long	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	37	amod	_	_
37	time	time	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	27	parataxis	_	_
38	in	in	SCONJ	IN	_	39	mark	_	_
39	getting	get	VERB	VBG	Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Part	37	advcl	_	_
40	to	to	ADP	IN	_	41	case	_	_
41	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	39	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
42	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	46	punct	_	_
43	if	if	SCONJ	IN	_	44	mark	_	_
44	ever	ever	ADV	RB	PronType=Ind	46	advmod	_	_
45	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	46	nsubj	_	_
46	get	get	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	parataxis	_	_
47	to	to	ADP	IN	_	48	case	_	_
48	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	46	obl	_	_
49	at	at	ADP	IN	_	50	case	_	_
50	all	all	DET	DT	PronType=Tot	54	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
51	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	50	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
52	”	"	PUNCT	''	_	50	punct	_	_
53	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	54	nsubj	_	_
54	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	46	advcl	_	SpaceAfter=No
55	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	60	punct	_	_
56	“	"	PUNCT	``	_	60	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
57	but	but	CCONJ	CC	_	60	cc	_	_
58	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	60	nsubj	_	_
59	may	may	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	60	aux	_	_
60	have	have	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	46	conj	_	_
61	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	62	det	_	_
62	loan	loan	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	60	obj	_	_
63	of	of	ADP	IN	_	65	case	_	_
64	my	my	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Sing|Person=1|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	65	nmod:poss	_	_
65	horse	horse	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	62	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
66	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	69	punct	_	_
67	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	69	cc	_	_
68	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	69	nsubj	_	_
69	think	think	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	5	parataxis	_	_
70	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Person=2|PronType=Prs	71	nsubj	_	_
71	had	have	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=2|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	69	ccomp	_	_
72	better	good	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	73	amod	_	_
73	ride	ride	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	71	obj	_	_
74	to	to	ADP	IN	_	77	case	_	_
75	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	77	det	_	_
76	East	East	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	77	compound	_	_
77	Wind	Wind	PROPN	NNP	Number=Sing	73	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
78	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	80	punct	_	_
79	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	80	cc	_	_
80	ask	ask	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	69	conj	_	_
81	him	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	80	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
82	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	86	punct	_	_
83	perhaps	perhaps	ADV	RB	_	86	advmod	_	_
84	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	86	nsubj	_	_
85	may	may	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	86	aux	_	_
86	know	know	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	80	parataxis	_	_
87	where	where	ADV	WRB	PronType=Rel	86	ccomp	_	_
88	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	89	det	_	_
89	castle	castle	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	87	nsubj	_	_
90	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	87	cop	_	SpaceAfter=No
91	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	94	punct	_	_
92	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	94	cc	_	_
93	will	will	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	94	aux	_	_
94	blow	blow	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	86	conj	_	_
95	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Person=2|PronType=Prs	94	obj	_	_
96	thither	thither	ADV	RB	_	94	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
97	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	5	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **know** | past | this old crone | the way |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **is** | past | way |  |  |  |  | of the sun; of the moon; east *property* | tree rules |
| 3 | **know** | past | crone | that |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 4 | **is a** *in a quote* | future | you | a long time |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 5 | **get** *in a quote* | gerund | you *not said here* |  | way |  |  |  | vn convert-26.6.2 «NP V S\_ING»: agent=Patient to it=Result |
| 6 | **get** *in a quote* | present | you |  | way |  | ever |  | vn convert-26.6.2 «NP V S\_ING»: agent=Patient to it=Result |
| 7 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | crone |  |  | all |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent |
| 8 | **have** *in a quote* | may | you | the loan of my horse |  |  |  |  | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent loan=Patient |
| 9 | **think** *speech: other* *in a quote* | present | I |  |  |  |  |  | vn consider-29.9-2 «NP V how S»: agent=Agent clause=Theme |
| 10 | **have** *in a quote* | past | you | better ride |  |  |  | to the East Wind | vn birth-28.2-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent ride=Patient |
| 11 | **ask** *speech: ask* *in a quote* | infinitive | I *not said here* |  | horse |  |  |  | vn inquire-37.1.2 «NP V NP.recipient»: agent=Agent he=Recipient |
| 12 | **know** *in a quote* | may | horse |  |  |  |  | perhaps *property* | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1-1 «NP V»: agent=Experiencer |
| 13 | **is** *in a quote* | present | the castle |  |  |  |  | where *property* | tree rules |
| 14 | **blow** *in a quote* | future | horse *not said here* | you |  |  |  | thither *property* | vn split-23.2 «NP V NP apart»: agent=Agent you=Patient |
| 15 | **loan** *in a quote* |  |  | my horse |  |  |  |  | nom loan «possession transitive»: of=patient |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «The Blue Fairy Book» by Andrew Lang, Project Gutenberg book 503 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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