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title: When the older of the two men saw this, he said, ‘We must go home at… — Myths and Folk-lore of the Timiskaming Algonquin… · tree and pragmatics
description: When the older of the two men saw this, he said, ‘We must go home at once and give up hunting because something is wrong at home.’ Who acts: two men, man, We, something. A sentence of «Myths and Folk-lore of the Timiskaming Algonquin and Timagami Ojibwa» by Frank G. Speck, Timiskaming Folk-lore., wi
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# Myths and Folk-lore of the Timiskaming Algonquin and Timagami Ojibwa, Timiskaming Folk-lore., sentence 41

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When the older of the two men saw this, he said, ‘We must go home at once and give up hunting because something is wrong at home.’

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**Who acts:** two men, man, We, something · **What happens:** see, say, go, give up, be · **To what, where:** this, hunting, home · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of «Myths and Folk-lore of the Timiskaming Algonquin and Timagami Ojibwa» by Frank G. Speck, Timiskaming Folk-lore.. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (two men, man, We, something), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Mova's own parse.** This tree may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg66509:10:41
# text = When the older of the two men saw this, he said, ‘We must go home at once and give up hunting because something is wrong at home.’
1	When	when	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	8	advmod	_	_
2	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	3	det	_	_
3	older	old	ADJ	JJR	Degree=Cmp	8	advmod	_	_
4	of	of	ADP	IN	_	7	case	_	_
5	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
6	two	two	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	7	nummod	_	_
7	men	man	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	8	nsubj	_	_
8	saw	see	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	12	advcl	_	_
9	this	this	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	8	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
10	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	8	punct	_	_
11	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	12	nsubj	_	_
12	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	17	punct	_	_
14	‘	'	PUNCT	``	_	17	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	We	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	17	nsubj	_	_
16	must	must	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	17	aux	_	_
17	go	go	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	12	ccomp	_	_
18	home	home	ADV	RB	_	17	advmod	_	_
19	at	at	ADP	IN	_	20	case	_	_
20	once	once	ADV	RB	NumForm=Word|NumType=Mult	17	obl	_	_
21	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	22	cc	_	_
22	give	give	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	17	conj	_	_
23	up	up	ADP	RP	_	22	compound:prt	_	_
24	hunting	hunting	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	22	obj	_	_
25	because	because	SCONJ	IN	_	28	mark	_	_
26	something	something	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	28	nsubj	_	_
27	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	28	cop	_	_
28	wrong	wrong	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	22	advcl	_	_
29	at	at	ADP	IN	_	30	case	_	_
30	home	home	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	28	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
31	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	17	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
32	’	'	PUNCT	''	_	17	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **see** | past | the two men | this |  |  |  |  | vn comprehend-87.2-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer this=Stimulus |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | man |  |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 3 | **go** | must | We |  |  |  |  | home *property* | vn occur-48.3-2 «NP V PP»: agent=Theme at once=Location |
| 4 | **give up** | infinitive | We *not said here* | hunting |  |  |  |  | vn resign-10.11-2 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent hunting=Source |
| 5 | **is** | present | something |  |  | home |  | wrong *property* | tree rules |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «Myths and Folk-lore of the Timiskaming Algonquin and Timagami Ojibwa» by Frank G. Speck, Project Gutenberg book 66509 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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