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description: So where is the harm? or rather, is it not pure gain, and no loss, to make the attempt and abide the result, whether I live or die? Who acts: harm, I. A sentence of «The descent of the sun: A cycle of birth» by Unknown, A Sleep and a Dream., part 2, with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of eve
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# The descent of the sun: A cycle of birth, A Sleep and a Dream., part 2, sentence 47

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So where is the harm? or rather, is it not pure gain, and no loss, to make the attempt and abide the result, whether I live or die?

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**Who acts:** harm, I · **What happens:** be, not be, make, abide, live, die · **To what, where:** pure gain, attempt, result

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This is a sentence of «The descent of the sun: A cycle of birth» by Unknown, A Sleep and a Dream., part 2. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (harm, I), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Mova's own parse.** This tree may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg68641:4:47
# text = So where is the harm? or rather, is it not pure gain, and no loss, to make the attempt and abide the result, whether I live or die?
1	So	so	ADV	RB	_	2	advmod	_	_
2	where	where	ADV	WRB	PronType=Rel	21	advmod	_	_
3	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	2	cop	_	_
4	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	5	det	_	_
5	harm	harm	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	2	punct	_	_
7	or	or	CCONJ	CC	_	14	cc	_	_
8	rather	rather	ADV	RB	_	14	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	8	punct	_	_
10	is	be	AUX	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	14	cop	_	_
11	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	14	nsubj	_	_
12	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	14	advmod	_	_
13	pure	pure	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	14	amod	_	_
14	gain	gain	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
15	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	18	punct	_	_
16	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	18	cc	_	_
17	no	no	DET	DT	PronType=Neg	18	det	_	_
18	loss	loss	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	2	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
19	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	21	punct	_	_
20	to	to	PART	TO	_	21	mark	_	_
21	make	make	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
22	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	23	det	_	_
23	attempt	attempt	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	21	obj	_	_
24	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	25	cc	_	_
25	abide	abide	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	21	conj	_	_
26	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	27	det	_	_
27	result	result	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	25	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
28	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	31	punct	_	_
29	whether	whether	SCONJ	IN	_	31	mark	_	_
30	I	I	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Sing|Person=1|PronType=Prs	31	nsubj	_	_
31	live	live	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	21	parataxis	_	_
32	or	or	CCONJ	CC	_	33	cc	_	_
33	die	die	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	31	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
34	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	21	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | present | the harm |  |  |  |  | no loss *conj*; where *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **not** **is a** | present | harm | pure gain |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **make** | to-infinitive |  | the attempt |  |  |  |  | vn build-26.1-1 «NP.asset V NP»: agent=Asset attempt=Product |
| 4 | **abide** | infinitive |  | the result |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 5 | **live** | present | I |  |  |  |  |  | vn exist-47.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 6 | **die** | infinitive | I *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn calibratable\_cos-45.6.1 «NP.attribute V»: agent=Attribute |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «The descent of the sun: A cycle of birth» by Unknown, Project Gutenberg book 68641 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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