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title: Indeed, why should it be necessary to discuss the injurious effect o… — The grateful elephant · tree and pragmatics
description: Indeed, why should it be necessary to discuss the injurious effect on human beings of contact with the corrupt, when in times past even a senseless mango tree, with flavor as sweet as the flavor of celestial fruit, through contact with sour, unpalatable nimbs, turned sour and bitter?” Who acts: cont
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# The grateful elephant, Opening, part 9, sentence 144

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Indeed, why should it be necessary to discuss the injurious effect on human beings of contact with the corrupt, when in times past even a senseless mango tree, with flavor as sweet as the flavor of celestial fruit, through contact with sour, unpalatable nimbs, turned sour and bitter?”

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**Who acts:** contact · **What happens:** be, discuss, turn, flavor · **To what, where:** injurious effect, human beings, celestial fruit

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This is a sentence of «The grateful elephant» by Eugene Watson Burlingame, Opening, part 9. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (contact), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Mova's own parse.** This tree may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg74064:9:153
# text = Indeed, why should it be necessary to discuss the injurious effect on human beings of contact with the corrupt, when in times past even a senseless mango tree, with flavor as sweet as the flavor of celestial fruit, through contact with sour, unpalatable nimbs, turned sour and bitter?”
1	Indeed	indeed	ADV	RB	_	7	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	1	punct	_	_
3	why	why	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	7	advmod	_	_
4	should	should	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	7	aux	_	_
5	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	7	expl	_	_
6	be	be	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	7	cop	_	_
7	necessary	necessary	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	0	root	_	_
8	to	to	PART	TO	_	9	mark	_	_
9	discuss	discuss	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	7	csubj	_	_
10	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	12	det	_	_
11	injurious	injurious	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	12	amod	_	_
12	effect	effect	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	9	obj	_	_
13	on	on	ADP	IN	_	15	case	_	_
14	human	human	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	15	amod	_	_
15	beings	being	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	12	nmod	_	_
16	of	of	ADP	IN	_	17	case	_	_
17	contact	contact	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	15	nmod	_	_
18	with	with	ADP	IN	_	20	case	_	_
19	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	20	det	_	_
20	corrupt	corrupt	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	17	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
21	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	51	punct	_	_
22	when	when	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	51	advmod	_	_
23	in	in	ADP	IN	_	24	case	_	_
24	times	time	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	51	obl	_	_
25	past	past	ADP	IN	_	30	case	_	_
26	even	even	ADV	RB	_	30	advmod	_	_
27	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	30	det	_	_
28	senseless	senseless	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	30	amod	_	_
29	mango	mango	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	30	compound	_	_
30	tree	tree	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	24	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
31	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	33	punct	_	_
32	with	with	ADP	IN	_	33	case	_	_
33	flavor	flavor	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	30	conj	_	_
34	as	as	ADP	IN	_	35	case	_	_
35	sweet	sweet	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	33	nmod	_	_
36	as	as	ADP	IN	_	38	case	_	_
37	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	38	det	_	_
38	flavor	flavor	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	35	obl	_	_
39	of	of	ADP	IN	_	41	case	_	_
40	celestial	celestial	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	41	compound	_	_
41	fruit	fruit	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	38	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
42	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	44	punct	_	_
43	through	through	ADP	IN	_	44	case	_	_
44	contact	contact	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	30	conj	_	_
45	with	with	ADP	IN	_	49	case	_	_
46	sour	sour	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	49	amod	_	SpaceAfter=No
47	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	46	punct	_	_
48	unpalatable	unpalatable	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	49	amod	_	_
49	nimbs	nimb	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	44	nmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
50	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	24	punct	_	_
51	turned	turn	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	12	acl:relcl	_	_
52	sour	sour	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	51	xcomp	_	_
53	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	54	cc	_	_
54	bitter	bitter	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	52	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
55	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	7	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
56	”	"	PUNCT	''	_	7	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **is** | should |  |  |  |  |  | indeed, necessary *property* | tree rules |
| 2 | **discuss** *speech: other* | to-infinitive |  | the injurious effect |  | human beings of contact with the corrupt |  |  | vn chit\_chat-37.6-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent effect=Topic |
| 3 | **turn** | past |  |  |  |  | time | sour *property* | vn roll-51.3.1 «NP.theme V»: agent=Theme |
| 4 | **be** |  | contact with the corrupt |  |  |  |  |  | nom being «state intransitive»: of=agent |
| 5 | **flavor** |  |  | celestial fruit |  |  |  |  | nom flavor «state transitive»: of=patient |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «The grateful elephant» by Eugene Watson Burlingame, Project Gutenberg book 74064 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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