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title: “We've tried that before, and nobody would take you,” said his mothe… — English Fairy Tales · tree and pragmatics
description: “We've tried that before, and nobody would take you,” said his mother; “we must sell Milky-white and with the money do something, start shop, or something.” Who acts: We, nobody, mother. A sentence of «English Fairy Tales» by Joseph Jacobs, Jack and the Beanstalk, with its dependency tree and the pr
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# English Fairy Tales, Jack and the Beanstalk, sentence 6

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“We've tried that before, and nobody would take you,” said his mother; “we must sell Milky-white and with the money do something, start shop, or something.”

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**Who acts:** We, nobody, mother · **What happens:** try, take, say, sell, do, start · **To what, where:** that, you, something, Milky white, shop · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of «English Fairy Tales» by Joseph Jacobs, Jack and the Beanstalk. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (We, nobody, mother), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Parsed by Mova, not checked by a teacher.** This tree is Mova's own parse (the `en` model, on the CPU, when the site is built); it may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg7439:16:6
# text = “We've tried that before, and nobody would take you,” said his mother; “we must sell Milky-white and with the money do something, start shop, or something.”
1	“	"	PUNCT	``	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
2	We	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	4	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
3	've	have	AUX	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=1|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	4	aux	_	_
4	tried	try	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part	15	ccomp	_	_
5	that	that	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	4	obj	_	_
6	before	before	ADV	RB	_	4	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
7	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	11	punct	_	_
8	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	11	cc	_	_
9	nobody	nobody	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Neg	11	nsubj	_	_
10	would	would	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	11	aux	_	_
11	take	take	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	4	conj	_	_
12	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Person=2|PronType=Prs	11	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	4	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	”	"	PUNCT	''	_	15	punct	_	_
15	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=1|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
16	his	his	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	17	nmod:poss	_	_
17	mother	mother	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	15	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
18	;	;	PUNCT	:	_	22	punct	_	_
19	“	"	PUNCT	``	_	22	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
20	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	22	nsubj	_	_
21	must	must	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	22	aux	_	_
22	sell	sell	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	15	ccomp	_	_
23	Milky	milky	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	25	amod	_	SpaceAfter=No
24	-	-	PUNCT	HYPH	_	23	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
25	white	white	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	22	obj	_	_
26	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	29	cc	_	_
27	with	with	ADP	IN	_	29	case	_	_
28	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	29	det	_	_
29	money	money	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	22	conj	_	_
30	do	do	VERB	VBP	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	22	parataxis	_	_
31	something	something	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	30	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
32	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	33	punct	_	_
33	start	start	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	22	conj	_	_
34	shop	shop	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	33	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
35	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	37	punct	_	_
36	or	or	CCONJ	CC	_	37	cc	_	_
37	something	something	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	15	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
38	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	37	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
39	”	"	PUNCT	''	_	37	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **try** *in a quote* | present · perfect | We | that |  |  |  | before *property* | vn try-61.1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent that=Eventuality |
| 2 | **take** *in a quote* | would | nobody |  | you |  |  |  | vn bring-11.3 «NP V NP ADVP»: agent=Instrument you=Destination |
| 3 | **say** *speech: assert* | past | Jack's mother | something |  |  |  |  | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 4 | **sell** *in a quote* | must | we | Milky white |  |  |  |  | vn give-13.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent white=Theme |
| 5 | **do** *in a quote* | present |  | something |  |  |  |  | vn act-114-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent something=Eventuality |
| 6 | **start** *in a quote* | infinitive | we *not said here* | shop |  |  |  |  | vn begin-55.1-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent shop=Eventuality |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «English Fairy Tales» by Joseph Jacobs, Project Gutenberg book 7439 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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