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title: Before any decision was given, however, the oldest counsellor rose a… — Folk tales from Tibet · tree and pragmatics
description: Before any decision was given, however, the oldest counsellor rose and addressed the meeting as follows: Who acts: oldest counsellor. A sentence of «Folk tales from Tibet» by William Frederick Travers, Sir O'Connor, The Story of Room Bacha and Baki., with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of ev
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# Folk tales from Tibet, The Story of Room Bacha and Baki., sentence 21

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Before any decision was given, however, the oldest counsellor rose and addressed the meeting as follows:

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**Who acts:** oldest counsellor · **What happens:** give, rise, address, follow · **To what, where:** decision, meeting

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This is a sentence of «Folk tales from Tibet» by William Frederick Travers, Sir O'Connor, The Story of Room Bacha and Baki.. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (oldest counsellor), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Mova's own parse.** This tree may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg75000:22:21
# text = Before any decision was given, however, the oldest counsellor rose and addressed the meeting as follows:
1	Before	before	SCONJ	IN	_	5	mark	_	_
2	any	any	DET	DT	PronType=Ind	3	det	_	_
3	decision	decision	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	5	nsubj:pass	_	_
4	was	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	5	aux:pass	_	_
5	given	give	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	12	advcl	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	5	punct	_	_
7	however	however	ADV	RB	_	12	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
8	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	7	punct	_	_
9	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
10	oldest	old	ADJ	JJS	Degree=Sup	11	amod	_	_
11	counsellor	counsellor	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	12	nsubj	_	_
12	rose	rise	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
13	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	14	cc	_	_
14	addressed	address	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	12	conj	_	_
15	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	16	det	_	_
16	meeting	meeting	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	obj	_	_
17	as	as	SCONJ	IN	_	18	mark	_	_
18	follows	follow	VERB	VBZ	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Pres|VerbForm=Fin	14	advcl	_	SpaceAfter=No
19	:	:	PUNCT	:	_	12	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **give** | past · passive |  | any decision |  |  |  |  | vn give-13.1-1 «NP V NP»: subject=Theme |
| 2 | **rise** | past | the oldest counsellor |  |  |  |  | however *property* | vn assuming\_position-50 «NP V»: agent=Agent |
| 3 | **address** | past | the oldest counsellor *not said here* | the meeting |  |  |  |  | vn illustrate-25.3 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent meeting=Destination |
| 4 | **follow** | present | the oldest counsellor *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn occur-48.3-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «Folk tales from Tibet» by William Frederick Travers, Sir O'Connor, Project Gutenberg book 75000 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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