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title: See you these men?" he said to the Frenchmen, "we cannot stand again… — Stories of Charlemagne and the twelve Peers of F… · tree and pragmatics
description: See you these men?" he said to the Frenchmen, "we cannot stand against them; let us retreat." Who acts: you, Ogier, we, us. A sentence of «Stories of Charlemagne and the twelve Peers of France» by Alfred John Church, Of the Treachery of King John, with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of every
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# Stories of Charlemagne and the twelve Peers of France, Of the Treachery of King John, sentence 110

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See you these men?" he said to the Frenchmen, "we cannot stand against them; let us retreat."

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**Who acts:** you, Ogier, we, us · **What happens:** see, say, not stand, let, retreat · **To what, where:** you, us · **Speech:** someone speaks here

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This is a sentence of «Stories of Charlemagne and the twelve Peers of France» by Alfred John Church, Of the Treachery of King John. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (you, Ogier, we, us), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Mova's own parse.** This tree may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg75339:7:110
# text = See you these men?" he said to the Frenchmen, "we cannot stand against them; let us retreat."
1	See	see	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
2	you	you	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Person=2|PronType=Prs	1	obj	_	_
3	these	this	DET	DT	Number=Plur|PronType=Dem	4	det	_	_
4	men	man	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	1	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
5	?	?	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
6	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	1	punct	_	_
7	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	8	nsubj	_	_
8	said	say	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	1	advcl	_	_
9	to	to	ADP	IN	_	11	case	_	_
10	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	11	det	_	_
11	Frenchmen	Frenchman	PROPN	NNPS	Number=Plur	8	nsubj	_	SpaceAfter=No
12	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	17	punct	_	_
13	"	"	PUNCT	``	_	17	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	17	nsubj	_	_
15	can	can	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	17	aux	_	SpaceAfter=No
16	not	not	PART	RB	Polarity=Neg	17	advmod	_	_
17	stand	stand	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	8	ccomp	_	_
18	against	against	ADP	IN	_	19	case	_	_
19	them	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	17	obl	_	SpaceAfter=No
20	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	21	punct	_	_
21	let	let	VERB	VB	Mood=Imp|VerbForm=Fin	1	conj	_	_
22	us	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	21	obj	_	_
23	retreat	retreat	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	21	xcomp	_	SpaceAfter=No
24	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	1	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
25	"	"	PUNCT	''	_	1	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **see** | imperative | you *not said here* | you |  |  |  | this men *obj* | tree rules |
| 2 | **say** *speech: assert* *in a quote* | past | Ogier |  |  |  |  | the Frenchmen *nsubj* | vn say-37.7-1-1 «NP V that S»: agent=Agent clause=Topic |
| 3 | **not** **stand** | can | we |  |  |  |  | against Frenchmen *= frenchman* | vn assuming\_position-50 «NP V PP.location»: agent=Agent against they=Location |
| 4 | **let** | infinitive | you *not said here* | us |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 5 | **retreat** | infinitive | us *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn calibratable\_cos-45.6.1-1 «NP.attribute V»: agent=Attribute |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «Stories of Charlemagne and the twelve Peers of France» by Alfred John Church, Project Gutenberg book 75339 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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