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title: Neither his father or the men with him could pull this “something” o… — Ojibwa myths and tales · tree and pragmatics
description: Neither his father or the men with him could pull this “something” out, but the young man could; so he pulled it out, wrapped it up and took it to camp. Who acts: father. A sentence of «Ojibwa myths and tales» by Geo. E. Laidlaw, The Creation of Man., with its dependency tree and the pragmatics of e
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# Ojibwa myths and tales, The Creation of Man., sentence 23

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Neither his father or the men with him could pull this “something” out, but the young man could; so he pulled it out, wrapped it up and took it to camp.

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**Who acts:** father · **What happens:** pull out, wrap up, take, camp · **To what, where:** something, lightning

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This is a sentence of «Ojibwa myths and tales» by Geo. E. Laidlaw, The Creation of Man.. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (father), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Mova's own parse.** This tree may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg76755:30:23
# text = Neither his father or the men with him could pull this “something” out, but the young man could; so he pulled it out, wrapped it up and took it to camp.
1	Neither	neither	CCONJ	CC	Polarity=Neg	10	cc:preconj	_	_
2	his	his	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	3	nmod:poss	_	_
3	father	father	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	10	nsubj	_	_
4	or	or	CCONJ	CC	_	6	cc	_	_
5	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	6	det	_	_
6	men	man	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	3	conj	_	_
7	with	with	ADP	IN	_	8	case	_	_
8	him	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	6	nmod	_	_
9	could	could	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	10	aux	_	_
10	pull	pull	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
11	this	this	PRON	DT	Number=Sing|PronType=Dem	13	nsubj	_	_
12	“	"	PUNCT	``	_	13	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
13	something	something	PRON	NN	Number=Sing|PronType=Ind	10	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
14	”	"	PUNCT	''	_	13	punct	_	_
15	out	out	ADP	RP	_	10	compound:prt	_	SpaceAfter=No
16	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	21	punct	_	_
17	but	but	CCONJ	CC	_	21	cc	_	_
18	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	20	det	_	_
19	young	young	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	20	amod	_	_
20	man	man	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	21	nsubj	_	_
21	could	could	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	10	parataxis	_	SpaceAfter=No
22	;	;	PUNCT	,	_	25	punct	_	_
23	so	so	ADV	RB	_	25	advmod	_	_
24	he	he	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Masc|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	25	nsubj	_	_
25	pulled	pull	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	10	parataxis	_	_
26	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	25	obj	_	_
27	out	out	ADP	RP	_	25	compound:prt	_	SpaceAfter=No
28	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	29	punct	_	_
29	wrapped	wrap	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	25	conj	_	_
30	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	29	obj	_	_
31	up	up	ADP	RP	_	29	compound:prt	_	_
32	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	33	cc	_	_
33	took	take	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	29	conj	_	_
34	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	33	obj	_	_
35	to	to	PART	TO	_	36	mark	_	_
36	camp	camp	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	33	advcl	_	SpaceAfter=No
37	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	10	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **pull out** | could | story's father or the men with story | something  this |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 2 | **pull out** | past | father | lightning |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 3 | **wrap up** | past | father *not said here* | lightning |  |  |  |  | vn spray-9.7-1 «NP V NP.theme»: agent=Agent it=Theme |
| 4 | **take** | past | father *not said here* | lightning |  |  |  |  | vn bring-11.3 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent it=Theme |
| 5 | **camp** | to-infinitive | father *not said here* |  |  |  |  |  | vn odge-46-1 «NP V PP.location»: agent=Theme |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «Ojibwa myths and tales» by Geo. E. Laidlaw, Project Gutenberg book 76755 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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