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title: When she came close again the boys threw the thorn down when it beca… — Ojibwa myths and tales · tree and pragmatics
description: When she came close again the boys threw the thorn down when it became a very big bush of thorn trees (Haw trees), which gave the two boys a chance to get ahead a good bit before she got through. Who acts: mother, boys, thorn, thorn trees. A sentence of «Ojibwa myths and tales» by Geo. E. Laidlaw, N
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# Ojibwa myths and tales, Ne-we-no-nah K’she Mŭh., sentence 19

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When she came close again the boys threw the thorn down when it became a very big bush of thorn trees (Haw trees), which gave the two boys a chance to get ahead a good bit before she got through.

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**Who acts:** mother, boys, thorn, thorn trees, big bush · **What happens:** come, throw down, become, haw, give, get · **To what, where:** thorn, big bush, trees, chance, two boys, good bit

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This is a sentence of «Ojibwa myths and tales» by Geo. E. Laidlaw, Ne-we-no-nah K’she Mŭh.. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (mother, boys, thorn, thorn trees), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Mova's own parse.** This tree may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg76755:7:19
# text = When she came close again the boys threw the thorn down when it became a very big bush of thorn trees (Haw trees), which gave the two boys a chance to get ahead a good bit before she got through.
1	When	when	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	3	advmod	_	_
2	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	3	nsubj	_	_
3	came	come	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	8	advcl	_	_
4	close	close	ADV	RB	Degree=Pos	3	advmod	_	_
5	again	again	ADV	RB	_	3	advmod	_	_
6	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	7	det	_	_
7	boys	boy	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	8	nsubj	_	_
8	threw	throw	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	0	root	_	_
9	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	10	det	_	_
10	thorn	thorn	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	8	obj	_	_
11	down	down	ADP	RP	_	8	compound:prt	_	_
12	when	when	ADV	WRB	PronType=Int	14	advmod	_	_
13	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	14	nsubj	_	_
14	became	become	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	8	advcl	_	_
15	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	18	det	_	_
16	very	very	ADV	RB	_	17	advmod	_	_
17	big	big	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	18	amod	_	_
18	bush	bush	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	14	xcomp	_	_
19	of	of	ADP	IN	_	21	case	_	_
20	thorn	thorn	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	21	compound	_	_
21	trees	tree	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	18	nmod	_	_
22	(	(	PUNCT	-LRB-	_	23	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
23	Haw	haw	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	21	acl	_	_
24	trees	tree	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	23	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
25	)	)	PUNCT	-RRB-	_	23	punct	_	SpaceAfter=No
26	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	28	punct	_	_
27	which	which	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	28	nsubj	_	_
28	gave	give	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	18	acl:relcl	_	_
29	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	31	det	_	_
30	two	two	NUM	CD	NumForm=Word|NumType=Card	31	nummod	_	_
31	boys	boy	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	28	obj	_	_
32	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	33	det	_	_
33	chance	chance	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	28	obj	_	_
34	to	to	PART	TO	_	35	mark	_	_
35	get	get	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	33	acl	_	_
36	ahead	ahead	ADV	RB	_	35	advmod	_	_
37	a	a	DET	DT	Definite=Ind|PronType=Art	39	det	_	_
38	good	good	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	39	amod	_	_
39	bit	bit	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	35	obl:unmarked	_	_
40	before	before	SCONJ	IN	_	42	mark	_	_
41	she	she	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Gender=Fem|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	42	nsubj	_	_
42	got	get	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	35	advcl	_	_
43	through	through	ADV	RB	_	42	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
44	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	8	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **come** | past | mother |  |  |  | again | close *property* | vn escape-51.1-1 «NP V»: agent=Theme |
| 2 | **throw down** | past | the boys | the thorn |  |  |  |  | vn throw-17.1-1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent thorn=Theme |
| 3 | **become** | past | thorn | a big bush of thorn trees |  |  |  |  | vn become-109.1-1-1 «NP V PP.attribute»: agent=Patient |
| 4 | **haw** | infinitive | thorn trees *not said here* | trees |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 5 | **give** | past | a big bush of thorn trees | a chance | the two boys |  |  |  | vn give-13.1-1 «NP V NP-Dative NP»: agent=Agent boy=Recipient chance=Theme |
| 6 | **get** | to-infinitive | a big bush of thorn trees *not said here* | a good bit |  |  |  | ahead *property* | vn comprehend-87.2-1 «NP V S\_ING»: agent=Experiencer |
| 7 | **get through** | past | mother |  |  |  |  | through *property* | vn cope-83-1-1 «NP V»: agent=Agent |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «Ojibwa myths and tales» by Geo. E. Laidlaw, Project Gutenberg book 76755 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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