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# Early Bardic Literature, Ireland., Early Bardic Literature, Ireland., part 2, sentence 70

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Can we believe it possible that the bards, who actually supported themselves by the amount of pleasure which they gave their audiences, would have forsaken those subjects which were already popular, and those kings and heroes whose splendour and achievements must have affected, profoundly, the popular imagination, in order to invent stories to illuminate fabricated names.

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**Who acts:** we, bards, pleasure, subjects · **What happens:** believe, support, give, forsake, be, affect · **To what, where:** truthfulness, bards, audiences, kings, stories, fabricated names

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This is a sentence of «Early Bardic Literature, Ireland.» by Standish O'Grady, Early Bardic Literature, Ireland., part 2. The page gives its syntax tree — a dependency tree in the style of Universal Dependencies — and its pragmatics clause by clause: who acts (we, bards, pleasure, subjects), what happens, when and where, as Mova's frames read it from the tree.

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**Mova's own parse.** This tree may be wrong.

## The tree {#tree}

```conllu
# sent_id = book:pg8109:2:70
# text = Can we believe it possible that the bards, who actually supported themselves by the amount of pleasure which they gave their audiences, would have forsaken those subjects which were already popular, and those kings and heroes whose splendour and achievements must have affected, profoundly, the popular imagination, in order to invent stories to illuminate fabricated names.
1	Can	can	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	3	aux	_	_
2	we	we	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=1|PronType=Prs	3	nsubj	_	_
3	believe	believe	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	0	root	_	_
4	it	it	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Gender=Neut|Number=Sing|Person=3|PronType=Prs	3	obj	_	_
5	possible	possible	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	3	xcomp	_	_
6	that	that	SCONJ	IN	_	27	mark	_	_
7	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	8	det	_	_
8	bards	bard	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	27	nsubj:pass	_	SpaceAfter=No
9	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	12	punct	_	_
10	who	who	PRON	WP	PronType=Rel	12	nsubj	_	_
11	actually	actually	ADV	RB	_	12	advmod	_	_
12	supported	support	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	8	acl:relcl	_	_
13	themselves	themselves	PRON	PRP	Case=Acc|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs|Reflex=Yes	12	obj	_	_
14	by	by	ADP	IN	_	16	case	_	_
15	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	16	det	_	_
16	amount	amount	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	12	obl	_	_
17	of	of	ADP	IN	_	18	case	_	_
18	pleasure	pleasure	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	16	nmod	_	_
19	which	which	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	21	nsubj	_	_
20	they	they	PRON	PRP	Case=Nom|Number=Plur|Person=3|PronType=Prs	21	nsubj	_	_
21	gave	give	VERB	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Sing|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	18	acl:relcl	_	_
22	their	their	PRON	PRP$	Case=Gen|Number=Plur|Person=3|Poss=Yes|PronType=Prs	23	nmod:poss	_	_
23	audiences	audience	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	21	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
24	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	8	punct	_	_
25	would	would	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	27	aux	_	_
26	have	have	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	27	aux	_	_
27	forsaken	forsake	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	5	advcl	_	_
28	those	that	DET	DT	Number=Plur|PronType=Dem	29	det	_	_
29	subjects	subject	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	33	nsubj	_	_
30	which	which	PRON	WDT	PronType=Rel	33	nsubj	_	_
31	were	be	AUX	VBD	Mood=Ind|Number=Plur|Person=3|Tense=Past|VerbForm=Fin	33	cop	_	_
32	already	already	ADV	RB	_	33	advmod	_	_
33	popular	popular	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	27	parataxis	_	SpaceAfter=No
34	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	46	punct	_	_
35	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	46	cc	_	_
36	those	that	DET	DT	Number=Plur|PronType=Dem	37	det	_	_
37	kings	king	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	46	nsubj:pass	_	_
38	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	39	cc	_	_
39	heroes	hero	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	37	conj	_	_
40	whose	whose	PRON	WP$	Poss=Yes|PronType=Rel	41	nmod:poss	_	_
41	splendour	splendour	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	37	nmod	_	_
42	and	and	CCONJ	CC	_	43	cc	_	_
43	achievements	achievement	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	41	conj	_	_
44	must	must	AUX	MD	VerbForm=Fin	46	aux	_	_
45	have	have	AUX	VB	VerbForm=Inf	46	aux	_	_
46	affected	affect	VERB	VBN	Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass	33	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
47	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	48	punct	_	_
48	profoundly	profoundly	ADV	RB	_	46	advmod	_	SpaceAfter=No
49	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	52	punct	_	_
50	the	the	DET	DT	Definite=Def|PronType=Art	52	det	_	_
51	popular	popular	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	52	amod	_	_
52	imagination	imagination	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	46	conj	_	SpaceAfter=No
53	,	,	PUNCT	,	_	57	punct	_	_
54	in	in	SCONJ	IN	ExtPos=SCONJ	57	mark	_	_
55	order	order	NOUN	NN	Number=Sing	54	fixed	_	_
56	to	to	PART	TO	_	57	mark	_	_
57	invent	invent	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	33	conj	_	_
58	stories	story	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	57	obj	_	_
59	to	to	PART	TO	_	60	mark	_	_
60	illuminate	illuminate	VERB	VB	VerbForm=Inf	57	advcl	_	_
61	fabricated	fabricated	ADJ	JJ	Degree=Pos	62	amod	_	_
62	names	name	NOUN	NNS	Number=Plur	60	obj	_	SpaceAfter=No
63	.	.	PUNCT	.	_	3	punct	_	_
```

## Pragmatics {#pragmatics}

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| # | verb | tense, mood | who | what, whom | to whom | where | when | other | roles by |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | **believe** | can | we | truthfulness |  |  |  | possible *property* | vn admire-31.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer it=Stimulus |
| 2 | **support** | past | the bards | bards *= bard* |  |  |  | by the amount of pleasure; actually *property* | vn admire-31.2 «NP V NP»: agent=Experiencer themselves=Stimulus |
| 3 | **give** | past | pleasure | bards's audiences |  |  |  | bards *= bard* *nsubj* | vn give-13.1-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent audience=Theme |
| 4 | **forsake** | would · perfect · passive |  | the bards |  |  |  |  | tree rules |
| 5 | **is** | past | that subjects |  |  |  |  | which *nsubj*; popular *property* | tree rules |
| 6 | **affect** | must · perfect · passive |  | that kings  that kings  that kings's splendour and achievements and heroes's splendour and achievements and heroes |  |  |  | the popular imagination *conj*; profoundly *property* | vn amuse-31.1 «NP V NP»: subject=Experiencer |
| 7 | **invent** | to-infinitive | that subjects *not said here* | stories |  |  |  |  | vn create-26.4-1 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent story=Result |
| 8 | **illuminate** | to-infinitive | that subjects *not said here* | fabricated names |  |  |  |  | vn illustrate-25.3 «NP V NP»: agent=Agent name=Destination |
| 9 | **amount** |  |  | pleasure |  |  |  |  | nom amount «possession transitive»: of=patient |

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One row per clause the reader finds. «not said here»: a role filled from the clause above. «roles by»: a VerbNet class and frame when one fits the verb, else the reader's rules on the tree.

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**Text:** «Early Bardic Literature, Ireland.» by Standish O'Grady, Project Gutenberg book 8109 (public domain in the USA). **Tree:** Mova's own parse, Elamur Cosmic License. **Frames:** Mova's frames reader (`prag`), the chapter read in order.

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