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# Many systems, one strategy: Acquiring ordinals in Dutch and English

**Authors:** Caitlin Meyer, Sjef Barbiers, Fred Weerman · **Year:** 2020 · **Venue:** Glossa: a journal of general linguistics 5(1) **Link:** [glossa-journal.org/article/id/5348](https://www.glossa-journal.org/article/id/5348/) (DOI [10.5334/gjgl.595](https://doi.org/10.5334/gjgl.595)) · **Licence:** [CC BY 4.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

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1. [Caitlin Meyer](https://openalex.org/A5044320154) [ORCID](https://orcid.org/0000-0002-4868-3846) · h 5 · 32 citations · 22 works
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## What it is about

The paper asks whether children learn ordinal numbers (*second, third, vierde*) by a rule or item by item. Two "Give-N" comprehension tasks are run. Seventy Dutch children (aged 2;08 to 4;11) are tested on synthetic ordinals (*vierde*), analytic ordinals (*auto vier*, "car four") and an irregular form (*derde* "third"); 35 American English children (aged 3;3 to 5;3) do the same test with English forms. The results point to a rule. Children who know the cardinal principle (CP-knowers) find regular ordinals more easily than irregular ones in both languages, and analytic forms are no harder than synthetic ones. English regular ordinals are answered correctly about 60% of the time, while *second*, *third* and *fifth* are below 50%. The authors apply Yang's Tolerance Principle: with five ordinals and three exceptions, the English rule is still productive (the threshold for N = 5 is 3.1). English learners answer less accurately than Dutch learners overall, and the authors attribute this to the greater number of exceptions. Ordinals are learned differently from cardinals, which follow a slower, item-by-item pattern.

## Ideas

- I1. Implement the Tolerance Principle as a gate in `en/src/morph.rs`: for each candidate suffix over N lexical items, count exceptions e and adopt the rule if e is at most N divided by ln N. Output the N, e, threshold and the decision, with BTreeMap order over the candidates.
- I2. Check the gate on the English ordinals: for growing N, count the exceptions to *-th* among the first N ordinals (*first, second, third, fifth*, and spelling changes such as *ninth, twelfth*) and report the smallest N at which the gate adopts *-th*. Compare that point with the paper's acquisition findings for English.
- I3. Regularity as a feature of the ordinal lookup: mark each ordinal as regular or irregular, and report the accuracy of the ordinal analysis on each class separately. The paper predicts regular > irregular and no difference between analytic and synthetic forms, so that is the expected pattern.
- I4. Negative control: a suffix whose exceptions dominate (the English strong past forms) must be rejected by the gate. If the gate adopts it, the threshold is wrong.

## For Mova

The chapters are [12. Pronouns, determiners and numerals](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/docs/languages/en/12-pronouns-determiners-numerals/) (cardinals, ordinals and superlatives such as *first*), [17. Derivation II: suffixes](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/docs/languages/en/17-derivation-suffixes/) (productive suffixes such as *-th*) and [14. Irregular verbs](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/docs/languages/en/14-irregular-verbs/) (exceptions to a productive rule). The code is `en/src/morph.rs` (inflection and derivation rules), with the Tolerance gate as a small addition there, and `en/src/dict.rs` (the ordinal entries). The measures: the gate's decision and counts on the English ordinal list (run twice to confirm identical output), and the ordinal analysis accuracy by regularity class, compared with the paper's pattern.

## Cite

The paper itself, not this card. BibTeX from the library's record of the work. [DOI 10.5334/gjgl.595](https://doi.org/10.5334/gjgl.595)

```
@article{meyer2020many,
  title = {{Many systems, one strategy: Acquiring ordinals in Dutch and English}},
  author = {Meyer, Caitlin and Barbiers, Sjef and Weerman, Fred},
  journal = {Glossa: a journal of general linguistics},
  year = {2020},
  doi = {10.5334/gjgl.595},
  url = {https://doi.org/10.5334/gjgl.595}
}
```

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37. How to cite this article: Meyer, Caitlin, Sjef Barbiers and Fred Weerman. 2020. Many systems, one strategy: Acquiring ordinals in Dutch and English. Glossa: a journal of general linguistics 5(1): 100. 1–31. DOI: https://doi.org/10.5334/ gjgl.595 [↗](https://doi.org/10.5334/) [our card](https://md.mova.elamur.ai/free/en/docs/papers/meyer-2020-many-systems-one-strategy-acquiring/)
38. Submitted: 19 December 2017 [find](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Submitted%3A+19+December+2017)
39. Accepted: 02 January 2020 [find](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Accepted%3A+02+January+2020)
40. Published: 12 October 2020 [find](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Published%3A+12+October+2020)
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